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    Default 2004 Saturn Ion Scanning??????

    I have a 2004 Saturn Ion 3 with a 2.2L L4 Engine and a 5 speed Manual.

    I know that this vehicle is not on the Supported Vehicles List, but can I scan the ECM with the FlashScan V2 using the IL4 02+ P11 PCM settings?

    At this point I am just trying to scan the car to see what turned on the Check Engine Light, I am currently not interested in tuning the car.

    If this vehicle is not supported, does EFILive plan on supporting this ECU any time in the future?

    The ECM markings are:
    Saturn ECM
    P/N 12580751
    Serv No 12580756
    GM04E00A00 GDZS 07092003

    Thank you
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    I have an '04 Ion 2.2 also, automatic. I was told by the kids at the Ion forum that no one in the world can tune this vehicle and it's a major problem... So far I've scanned and logged with no problem. We'll see if it tunes.
    - Roland
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    stock 241 heads, stock cam,
    stock muffler, factory wheels

    8.2 @ 86
    (1/8th mile with 255 Toyo Proxes)
    I am learning...

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    What PCM does that use? P06, P11, or P12?
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    How are you Erik? Not sure can you tell from the log in this thread?

    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....-KNOCK-(false-)
    - Roland
    GM dealer tech since 2005
    '01 Z28 LS1/T56
    t-tops :usa:
    stock 241 heads, stock cam,
    stock muffler, factory wheels

    8.2 @ 86
    (1/8th mile with 255 Toyo Proxes)
    I am learning...

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    Doing well, back in the swing of things at school now though so tuning time is very limited. Not cool at all!

    I cant tell by that log, but with the AFR pid being so messed up its a 4 cyl PCM haha. The same PID spews garbage on my I6 which shares a lot in common with the 97-02 4cyl PCMs.

    To the OP, can you read the PCM using the 02+ 4 cyl PCM setting?
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    Yeah I'm on the forum learning at 4-5 am in the morning before working all day too just to squeeze in my tuning dreams. And yes I read it as an '02-'05 4cyl, not as an Atlas. I agree the OP should try both of the 4 cyl options, it may work.
    - Roland
    GM dealer tech since 2005
    '01 Z28 LS1/T56
    t-tops :usa:
    stock 241 heads, stock cam,
    stock muffler, factory wheels

    8.2 @ 86
    (1/8th mile with 255 Toyo Proxes)
    I am learning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkMax View Post
    I have a 2004 Saturn Ion 3 with a 2.2L L4 Engine and a 5 speed Manual.

    I know that this vehicle is not on the Supported Vehicles List, but can I scan the ECM with the FlashScan V2 using the IL4 02+ P11 PCM settings?

    At this point I am just trying to scan the car to see what turned on the Check Engine Light, I am currently not interested in tuning the car.

    If this vehicle is not supported, does EFILive plan on supporting this ECU any time in the future?

    The ECM markings are:
    Saturn ECM
    P/N 12580751
    Serv No 12580756
    GM04E00A00 GDZS 07092003

    Thank you
    Have the same car as you do my friend. Tuning this car is really a major problem for this car. I've brought it to some Saturn repair specialists and they told me that they have problems about tuning this car. I've seen some Saturn repair questions in the internet that has good answers and it also helped my friend to tune his car properly.
    Last edited by mr.; July 30th, 2011 at 07:29 PM.

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    It's just a weird ECM GM pulled from who knows where, I don't think there will ever be support from any company for that ECM. From memory I've seen it referred to as an E16.
    Need official EFILive help, please go here.
    For tuning support please post your questions on this forum (or other auto forums).
    Sorry if I don't respond to your PM, don't take it personal.


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    thread from the dead lol. for the record I successfully scanned and logged this car, I still have it. Posted a log of the run somewhere here, had lots of IAT KR, and a few PIDs were inaccurate. Good little car. I understand the no support, virtually NO ONE has tuning support for this. Lovely little motor!
    - Roland
    GM dealer tech since 2005
    '01 Z28 LS1/T56
    t-tops :usa:
    stock 241 heads, stock cam,
    stock muffler, factory wheels

    8.2 @ 86
    (1/8th mile with 255 Toyo Proxes)
    I am learning...

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    - Roland
    GM dealer tech since 2005
    '01 Z28 LS1/T56
    t-tops :usa:
    stock 241 heads, stock cam,
    stock muffler, factory wheels

    8.2 @ 86
    (1/8th mile with 255 Toyo Proxes)
    I am learning...

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