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Thread: Why won't my trans kick down????

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    Default Why won't my trans kick down????

    Hi All,
    I can't seem to figure out why my trans won't kick down to second when I'm on the freeway doing 100 or so kph.
    If I want to overtake and put my foot into it...it just won't shift. It just loads up and I get KR (due to the load I expect).
    At lower speeds it shifts fine.
    The attached log shows the issue at around frame 1700 and also 7000 or so.
    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by hquick; April 9th, 2009 at 09:50 AM.
    Howard

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    It appears to me as if the TPS% never achieved enough % to kick it down. The Kickdown {D1206} never got near 87% and the 3->2 downshift table was already out of range. {D0907}
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    Does your vehicle use the performance tables, or just the normal ones? Also table D0961, I have these set at 90% normal, 75% performance in my own vehicle so you don't have to completely mash it to the floor to get a kick down.
    It's all good until it goes "Bang"

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    As far as I know I'm using the 'normal' table.
    How can you specify one or the other?
    Al, what do you mean by the 3-2 downshift table was out of range?
    Do you mind altering that tune to what you would expect to be correct?
    I'm just trying to learn how to tune this trans.
    This is the EXACT problem I'm having. Not kicking down and just loading up causing KR.

    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....light=kickdown
    Howard

    YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T
    MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE
    DUCT TAPE.
    IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.


    98 K1500 'HOLDEN' Suburban.
    Custom Whipple SC, Mercruiser Marine intake, 0411 PCM, 4L80E w/shift kit

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    PLease have a look at frame 5636 onwards. I just 'stomped' the pedal. Didn't drop into 2nd and TC didn't unlock (should it?).
    Howard

    YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T
    MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE
    DUCT TAPE.
    IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.


    98 K1500 'HOLDEN' Suburban.
    Custom Whipple SC, Mercruiser Marine intake, 0411 PCM, 4L80E w/shift kit

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    Try this, but I can't guarentee it will work for you.
    It's all good until it goes "Bang"

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    Thanks....I'll give it a try this arvo.
    This log shows the problem pretty well (frame 6600+).
    Should the TC unlock when I stomp on the pedal?
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Howard

    YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T
    MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE
    DUCT TAPE.
    IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.


    98 K1500 'HOLDEN' Suburban.
    Custom Whipple SC, Mercruiser Marine intake, 0411 PCM, 4L80E w/shift kit

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    It would be better for you if it does. Hopefully if it unlocks for you on your 3-2 downshift it will stay unlocked in second as apply speeds are set to 410 in every box,so in theory the only lock up you should get in second is when your convertor reaches its stall speed.
    It's all good until it goes "Bang"

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    I noticed you were in 3rd gear for your logs. Do you normally cruise in 3rd? If not you could also raise D1002 TCC Apply in Gear to lock up later and adjust D1003 to suit your cruising.
    It's all good until it goes "Bang"

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    Apparently these transmissions don't generally last as long as they could/should if OD (4th) is used regularly. Although....I have the 80E so maybe that's more directed towards the 60E.
    Cruising in 4th seems to effect my AFR's also.
    Usually on longer drives I'll kick it into OD.
    Howard

    YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T
    MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE
    DUCT TAPE.
    IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.


    98 K1500 'HOLDEN' Suburban.
    Custom Whipple SC, Mercruiser Marine intake, 0411 PCM, 4L80E w/shift kit

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