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    Default Please help tune out backfire

    Have made changes to DFCO, VE, timing, base timing, cold commanded fueling...everything I could think of.

    Have checked for collapsed lifter, droped valve, valve sealing, plugs, wires, gaps. No codes.

    Here is current tune including mods to try & eliminate backfires. It is not where I'd like it to be in terms of spark. Please comment, thanks

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    Thanks, I see that you richened the open loop cold fueling (VE, spark as well). The OL fueling is one area that I didn't modify because didn't think that it would help. After seeing the changes that you've made + comments from others regarding the OL fueling, am optamistic that there will be an improvement.

    Will post again after testing the tune. Thank-you again, your assistance is appreciated

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    OK, there is an improvement. Backfires immediately upon lifting. So, is the next modification to the VE, OL or other?

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    post a log of a run with the tune i posted
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    I will later. Just got back from my garage. False alarm, it's doing the exact same thing.
    Seems like once it warmed up, it got worse. So, am thinking ECT timing related.

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    Just to be clear, it's not a backfire. An engine using ported injection is virtually impossible to induce a backfire unless you have introduced a flammable material prior to the intake port of the heads i.e. wet nitrous or alcohol spray.

    The noise you're hearing is unburned fuel igniting in the exhaust manifold or header, once the correct combination of air, fuel, and temperature is achieved. Try THESE DFCO settings. DFE1 is our resident DFCO guru.
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    ^^^ Thanks for the settings. Haven't loaded them yet, but will.

    Here is the current tune & a log. Car now POPS or BANGS during idle. Will idle for a while & then BANG, idle some more & then BANG. Problem has improved w/ a combination of the gmperformancecentre information + some additional timing, DFCO & airflow mods. Can now get it to rev & lift without POP or BANG until around 2k & under. Will try the above table settings tomorrow. Also, if anyone sees something in the tune or log, please comment.
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    if its poping and banging. it sounds like your over fuling the intakes and thus the extra fuel is burning in the headers...

    maybe drop some fuel back

    your using a WB 02 ??

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    ^^
    Yes, that is the case & is what we are trying to resolve here.

    Along w/DFCO & the other mods, it seems to need more timing restriction & possibly an injector flow reduction. In my log you will see that 0.89 is mapped as the wideband feedback for VE. However, regardless of how many times the VE table is changed, the mapped data remains 0.89 or 0.90. Was gonna tackle this issue next, but if it's related, what should my 30# Accels flow be?

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