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    Default Page 13 in the AutoVE Tuning guide.

    Am I suppose to leave C2901, C2902, C2903 at "1"? They were at 1400, 1400, and 6.

    And (C6002) P0101, P0102, P0103 suppose to leave it to "no mill"? Those were all "mil".

    Not sure what those do but they stay the same, just wondering.

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    ok. thanks,

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    C2901, C2902, C2903 at "1" = MAF "off"
    P0101, P0102, P0103 to "no mill" = No DTC light because MAF is "off"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    C2901, C2902, C2903 at "1" = MAF "off"
    P0101, P0102, P0103 to "no mill" = No DTC light because MAF is "off"
    So, what should I put those to?

    On the AutoVE tuning guide, it had me change those settings.. Then, on page 13 "returning it back from SD tune", it says to put those to 1,1,1 and NO MIL but its the same as it was when doing the autotuning.

    Just seeing if this would cause me to go way lean after about ~5 secs after WOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterbug1999 View Post
    Am I suppose to leave C2901, C2902, C2903 at "1"? They were at 1400, 1400, and 6.

    And (C6002) P0101, P0102, P0103 suppose to leave it to "no mill"? Those were all "mil".

    Not sure what those do but they stay the same, just wondering.
    This will leave you in SD, either open loop or closed loop.
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    Im just as confused as shit... I followed the dang tutorial, set up all the parameters, got some data, transferred the data (still had some spikes on the table but smoothed it out).

    Then on page 13 it says to retrun the PCM to speed density. Wasnt I all ready in Speed density?

    So, I ran WOT with it in SD then? My WB02 went way lean like up in the 60-70 range. I did order a new WB02 to see if its going out.

    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread.php?t=11388



    Should I change those values back to where they were originally?
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    SD = no MAF
    OL = no LTFT
    CL = LTFT

    MAF can be use in OL and CL.
    The "tutorial" tells you after tuning in OLSD,
    enable LTFTs (CLSD) and check that LTFTs are between 0% and -5%.
    This will not happen period.
    If you want LTFTs between 0% and -5% then tune with them and
    use your WBO2 for WOT.
    It sounds like you may need a new O2 sensor.
    With the LC-1 when a sensor goes bad you can see
    unreasonable AFR under load when you know it should not be or
    it may get Error 8.
    If AFR at WOT was really that lean you would know it.
    If the car pulls and does not miss or get KR most likely the sensor is shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    SD = no MAF
    OL = no LTFT
    CL = LTFT

    MAF can be use in OL and CL.
    The "tutorial" tells you after tuning in OLSD,
    enable LTFTs (CLSD) and check that LTFTs are between 0% and -5%.
    This will not happen period.
    If you want LTFTs between 0% and -5% then tune with them and
    use your WBO2 for WOT.
    It sounds like you may need a new O2 sensor.
    With the LC-1 when a sensor goes bad you can see
    unreasonable AFR under load when you know it should not be or
    it may get Error 8.
    If AFR at WOT was really that lean you would know it.
    If the car pulls and does not miss or get KR most likely the sensor is shot.
    Ill admit (and im sure you can tell), I am having a really hard time trying to understand everything. Ive read and read and read and still sometimes I cant make sense of things.

    I thought I was in the SD tune to get data and then just transfrerring it into another VE Table that I would use for my "normal" tune to help the car run better.

    I was stumped and thought that I should put those back to MIL and 1400? Or, do I leave it the way page 13 says? Thats the way I have it, so its not using the MAF then right?

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    If you want the MAF back on change the MAF stuff back to stock.
    IIRC
    The tutorial says nothing about turning the MAF back on just using OLSD and CLSD.
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    Well, my MAF and IFR's were hosed up bad... I fixed those and I thought I had to do the AutoVE tuning to fix other parts.

    Id rather run it with the MAF so I dont have to adjust it all the time... So, all teh data I gathered the other day is useless with if I use the MAF?
    Last edited by waterbug1999; July 20th, 2009 at 12:20 PM.

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