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    What do most of you do?
    Install the wideband in the one bung and then use the 0 to 1volt output as a substitute for the factory o2 and 0 to 5 for tuner? Or do you just weld in a second bung and not bother with the 0 to 1 out?
    thanks Ed
    If you install a second bung and suggestions on where? I have QTP LT and Y-pipe for an 01 ws6

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    I welded the bung in the catback just under the passenger rear seat.
    This way the exhaust from both banks flow past it,
    I didn't like the wild fluctuation in AFR I got from having it in one side of the exhaust.
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    that really depends on the wide band. I installed a second bung because i have a lm-1 and use it on several vechiles as it will log afr in it self.
    Would to the same if you have lm-1 or lm-2.
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    It will definitely be permanent. I have an LC-1 but I was thinking why not use the 0-1 vdc out of the LC-1 for the PCM and 0-5 vdc for the wideband. That would mean I could use the 2 existing bungs in my collectors and not have to weld a new bung on.
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    I have mine on the passenger side "Y" pipe at 3 o'clock about 3" after the header..

    I would have done it where Mr.Prick is talking about but I have duel cut outs, which are not completely air tight and would cause bad readings.

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    does anyone use the wideband to also feed the PCM?

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    ya theres other that use lc-1 as the narrow band to if i rember correctly you use both the wires from the analog out put 0-1 volt and i would sugest you log serial into youre v2
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRD-PREY View Post
    does anyone use the wideband to also feed the PCM?
    I'm sure some people use the simulated signal for NBO2 but
    is it going to be a good match for GM O2 sensors?
    The LC-1 manual says that analog #1 is pre-programmed for this
    1.099 volts = 14.08 AFR / 0.958 LAMBDA
    0.103 volts = 15.01 AFR / 1.021 LAMBDA

    If you do this and difference between bank1 and bank2 LTFT is more than 2%,
    then it's probably not a good idea.
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    My initial thoughts were to get a second LC1 and have a wideband in each header. This would then allow me to wire up both sensors to the PCM as well.

    Probably overkill but I too have a cutout thats not air tight and I was also thinking that the closer to the cylinder the O2 is the less delay between whats read and actual, which would be more accurate on transitional throttle readings? right?
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    I doubt it's much more,
    even the "slower" WBO2 controllers signal is pretty fast.
    There will always be some lag, MAP will change quicker than exhaust will flow.
    I can deal with a little lag but I couldn't stand the wild fluctuation I got from
    having my WBO2 in one bank.
    This was probably due to the cam.
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