When I went to autove my car was running at 10.9 to 1 afr. Guess thats why I could command higher afr in pe and open loop and it still ran 10.9. I would have thought it would not be using the ve table at that point , but obviously I was wrong. I have been running in tune mode(no maf) for days now and everything is much better as far as commanded vs. actual. Dialing in the ve is fun once everything is set up.