E37, anyone interested?

[GMPX]

Hi All,

Our internal development level software has preliminary support for the E37 ECM, also known as the rental car ECM

Before we commit to putting some more hours in to this project I'm hoping to get a feel for anyone interested in tuning these.

The vehicles that use the E37 are along the lines of the 2007+ 2.2L/2.4L Malibu, G5 etc, plus the 4.3L V6 Silverado/Vans.

As far as what you can tune in them, picture an E38, it's pretty much all the same, including Virtual VE tables.

So, up goes the poll....

Thanks,
Ross

[ScarabEpic22]

I assume 2.2/2.4L Cobalts are covered under this umbrella if the G5 is. I think it will be more beneficial in the coming future, lots of people will buy the cars cheap and want to tune them. I believe the Cobalt SS (2.4L I4 non turbo/supercharged) is covered in this then, pretty sure there will be some guys wanting EFILive for them. Plus the 4.3 is in a fair number of vans/trucks.

[GMPX]

This is my list of what engines it covers, there might be more, I'm not sure.

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2007+ Ecotec 2.2L I4 (L61)
2007+ Ecotec 2.4L I4 (LE5)
2007+ Vortec 4.3L V6 (LU3)
2009+ Ecotec 2.2L I4 (LAP)
2009+ Ecotec 2.2L I4 (LE8)
2009+ Ecotec 2.4L I4 (LE9)
2009+ High V 3.9L V6 (LGD,LZ9)

[L31Sleeper]

Well I promised my little brother that I would tune his 2009 silverado 4.3 V6,
I would like not to be a liar. But if there was any hope of braking into the
Bosch DI ECM I would much rather have that. I know that there won't be any
new Pontiac Solstice or Saturn Sky Redline, but the Cobalt SS and HHR Turbo
are still in production. Is the E37 used on the older Colbalt SS Supercharged ?

[GMPX]

We are fully aware there is more demand for the DI ECM to be supported than the E37, but there is method behind our madness.
The E37 has been a slow ongoing project for sometime (well, a spare time project), it's very similar to the E38 so figuring it all out was no big deal. The DI ECM on the other hand is Bosch, totally different to anything we've ever done and based on that the R&D involved we don't feel is worthwhile, well, worthwhile compared to other ECM's we are working towards supporting in 2010. Then on top of that GM has already started replacing the Bosch DI ECM with another Delphi ECM on some engines, it's probably on the way out anyway.

[ScarabEpic22]

I have to agree with L31Sleeper, the Bosch DI ECM was stuck in GM's high performance cars paired with a high performance engine. But, Im not sure if they changed ECMs between the 2L I4 s/c and 2L I4 t/c. If they did, more headaches. Plus, you are correct, GM is phasing the Bosch DI EC out altogether in the next MY or two. Wonder if they're going to a Dephi ECM for the Dmax again (heard rumors of that happening)?

But, the E37 would be much quicker to get out full support for as it shares code with the E38 (and therefore I assume E67).

How many O/Ss have you guys found for the E37, is it similar to the E38 or to the E67. Know there are like 2-3x the E67 OSs vs the E38s.

[L31Sleeper]

Well I'll take any additional coverage I can get if it's not too much trouble. Is the Camaro v6 run by the Bosch ??
Since we are on the subject are we going to get support for the old 3.8 v6 ??

Thank you for all your work
-Justin

[mr.prick]

Who voted no?
More support is always a good thing and Ross needs the extra work.

[ScarabEpic22]

Well I'll take any additional coverage I can get if it's not too much trouble. Is the Camaro v6 run by the Bosch ??
Since we are on the subject are we going to get support for the old 3.8 v6 ??

Thank you for all your work
-Justin

I think the new 'Maro V6 uses a different ECM. Heard its the E69-4 (not sure what the -4 means) by Bosch from a few places though. Same one as the CTS 3.6L DI V6.

BBR is already implemented for 3.8L V6s (and 3.4s, whatever use the same PCM from 96 - now-ish)... You can read 96-current V6s that use the P05 and whatever PCM they used from 96-04. You can BBL the P05 as well.


(side note, in V8 on the BBL side it says P05 from 05+, on the BBR/F side it says P05 04+)

[GMPX]

Plus, you are correct, GM is phasing the Bosch DI EC out altogether in the next MY or two. Wonder if they're going to a Dephi ECM for the Dmax again (heard rumors of that happening)?

Can't say for sure at this stage on the Duramax, the day they hit the dealers we'll know. You know I am hoping this is the case.

How many O/Ss have you guys found for the E37, is it similar to the E38 or to the E67. Know there are like 2-3x the E67 OSs vs the E38s.

Not too bad, about 10 I think, on the flip side, between the E38 and E67 we now support 87 different OS's, yes, 87!!

Well I'll take any additional coverage I can get if it's not too much trouble. Is the Camaro v6 run by the Bosch ??
Since we are on the subject are we going to get support for the old 3.8 v6 ??

All new ECM's are trouble . The decider is if it's worth the trouble.
The Camaro V6 is still Bosch, we have no plans to do the Bosch DI ECM (MED9.6 I think it's Bosch name is).
The old 3.8L is pretty low down the pecking order, maybe one day.

Who voted no?
More support is always a good thing and Ross needs the extra work.

No I don't, that is a vicious rumour, 87 E38 / E67 OS's keep me pretty busy, besides, I bet that will hit 100 by the end of this year.

Cheers,
Ross