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    i'm trying to figure out which output to use. I've read about every thread i could find and i'm still confused

    1. the efilive tutorial is written for a 7 wire setup and mine is 6 wire.
    2. innovate's instructions state that yellow output(number1) is the simulated narrowband wire, but on the tutorial it says use the yellow output number 2????????? that doesn't make sense, which one is right?
    3. for the calibration the tutorial says set output 2(yellow?-not right) to 1 volt=10afr and 2 volt=20afr.....innovate's instructions say that brown is #2 and that it is setup at 0v=7.35afr, and 5v=22.39afr

    please someone help me out which one do i use, both instructions contradict each other!!

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    Use the brown wire (0v=7.35afr, 5v=22.39afr) and use the pid CALC.AFR_LC11 or CALC.AFR_LC12.

    Do you have FlashScan V1 or V2...?

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    Note that the tutorial says this on page 1:

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    The example in this guide reprograms the LC-1 “Analog Out 1” output to send a compatible signal to the FlashScan/EFILive Software. The LC-1’s “Analog out 2” is programmed to send a correct signal to the DynoTune Display. The DynoTune Display is precalibrated from the vendor.

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    ok thanks so much! i've been banging my head against the table for the past hour trying to choose which one to use

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    Do this:
    - connect LC-1 red to switched/fused power,
    - connect LC-1 blue to battery ground,
    - connect LC-1 brown to FlashScan analog signal,
    - connect LC-1 white to FlashScan analog ground, <-- see the orange sentence below

    FlashScan V1: analog signal = pin E, analog ground = D
    FlashScan V2: analog signal = AD1+, analog ground = AD1-

    You also want this:
    - connect LC-1 black to the anode side of the LED,
    - connect LC-1 white to the cathode side of the LED,
    - connect the pushbutton switch in parallel with the LED,

    Note: LC-1 black wire is not a ground wire, so do not wire this to ground (it goes on the anode side of the LED).

    When you power on the LC-1, the LED should flash for about 20-30 seconds and then go on steady.

    The pushbutton is used for doing a free-air calibration (leave engine off overnite, then apply power to LC-1 and press pushbutton, wait for LED to go on steady).


    If you don't see a sensible signal for EXT.AD1 on the EFILive scantool do this:
    connect the LC-1 white wire to battery ground also (in addition to FlashScan analog ground).
    You can try this anyway to see if there is any difference in EXT.AD1 voltage.
    [mine works without having to do this].


    Now, if you have FlashScan V2, you should really use the serial comms connection and stay away from the analog connection mentioned above...
    You still have to provide power (red) and ground (blue), but now you connect the LC-1 SERIAL OUT to the FlashScan V2 RJ12 connector using the supplied serial cables and a null-modem adapter (or a ready made cable).

    The LC-1 terminator plug is required to be plugged into LC-1 SERIAL IN anytime the LC-1 SERIAL OUT is used (see previous paragraph, see next paragraph). You can simply just leave the terminator plug plugged in all the time.

    The LM Programmer software can be used to view and/or edit the LC-1 AFR:V mapping...
    to do this connect your laptop to the LC-1 SERIAL OUT using the supplied cable,
    then start the LM Programmer software.
    Last edited by joecar; April 6th, 2010 at 02:56 PM.

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    Do you have FlashScan V1 or V2...?

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    That tutorial needs to be updated.
    Use the brown wire (analog output #2) if you can't connect your LC-1 to a laptop.
    I highly suggest checking the settings in the LMProgrammer software to make sure
    everything is correct.
    Sometimes for whatever reason the LC-1 settings get changed to custom.
    How to match WBO2 output to {B3601}
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    FlashScan V2 Bootblock V2.07.04 Firmware V2.07.22 EFILive V7.5.7 (Build 191) V8.2.1 (Build 181)
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    i have v1

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    the LED that came with my kit has a red or black lead. it doesn't look like the LED they show in the manual. any ideas which side is the anode? google says anode is the positive(red) side, but my buddy who is a computer geek says that anode is negative(black)

    i can't tell you guys thanks enough this had been kicking my butt

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    V1 , ok, then you have to use the analog connection method.


    LED:
    anode is red (also: lead may be longer),
    cathode is black (also: body may have a flat).

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