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Thread: 04 GTO spark retard problem...

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    Default 04 GTO spark retard problem...

    this is a 64 impala swapped with 04 GTO LS1 & 4L60E. @ WOT in 2nd gear, timing is retarded down to 0-4 degrees, knocking ALL the power out of it. All ABS & traction control stuff are gone, I believe it may have something to do with that. How do I make it stop retarding? It will not do it in first gear nor Drive, but consistently in 2nd gear. Timing goes from 23 @ WOT immediately down to 0-4 degrees at 3500-3600. I can't find anything that correlates exactly to that. Thanks in advance

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    Post your files.

    Are you getting KR...?

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    here ya go... I can show you the dyno graph also, it will NOT do it in first gear nor 3rd, and it does it on the street as well as the dyno... I can post up the dynograph too, it pulls good to 3500 and then dives.
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    there is little knock retard (2-3) and the engine is stock

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    Are you using the tcs box deal that came with the 04 gto's I can't remember but I think it has a second weird computer the throttle cable came through. I had the same kind of issue with it my 04 when we gutted the car and got rid of it. Try flashing it to a 2002 camaro. Try this attached file you'll have to retune it or if you want and if I get the time I can copy your files to this OS. I'm not sure when I'll have the time though
    cosmos purple 2004 gto
    408 E85 GT47-91 ,turbo 400,9" currie straight axle,28/10.5w mt et streets



    2005 yellowjacket gto
    417 rwhp and 397 torque
    582 rwhp and 676 torque (150 shot)

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    can't flash a 512k tune in a 1mb pcm, can ya? I thought of this, just hadn't tried it yet... that is the failure status is gave me...

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    Or try this tune in it. Just try it and see if it still has the second gear issue. It has all stock spark and ve tables from a 04 gto. I has the theft system disabled.
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    cosmos purple 2004 gto
    408 E85 GT47-91 ,turbo 400,9" currie straight axle,28/10.5w mt et streets



    2005 yellowjacket gto
    417 rwhp and 397 torque
    582 rwhp and 676 torque (150 shot)

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    Oh crap I changed my pcm I forgot about that sry not sure what to do then. Trying to come up with another idea for ya. All the 1mb stuff had Throttle by wire as far as I know hmmmmm let me think awhile.
    cosmos purple 2004 gto
    408 E85 GT47-91 ,turbo 400,9" currie straight axle,28/10.5w mt et streets



    2005 yellowjacket gto
    417 rwhp and 397 torque
    582 rwhp and 676 torque (150 shot)

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    Okay try this
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    cosmos purple 2004 gto
    408 E85 GT47-91 ,turbo 400,9" currie straight axle,28/10.5w mt et streets



    2005 yellowjacket gto
    417 rwhp and 397 torque
    582 rwhp and 676 torque (150 shot)

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    Can you hear it knock...?

    Do you not get it in higher gears (3rd, 4th present more load than 2nd)...?

    Is there a possibility that it is a mechanical noise (internal or external)...?
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