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    Default Underdrive Pulley & Now A/C Does Not Work at Idle

    Guys, I have a 2004 Z06 that the A/C was working fine on. I had to take the headers off to get them repaired so I figured, may as well put an underdrive pulley on while it's down.

    Here's the issue: since the install, the A/C is all confused at idle. It can't decide to run or not, I can hear the compressor cycling on and off and the light indiciating the A/C is on/off flickers as the compressor cycles rapidly. When the engine is off idle the A/C is fine.

    I'm seeing differing info as to whether the pulley underdrives the A/C, but the most recent info is that it does underdrive the A/C 10%. Clearly, something changed. I did hook up the A/C gauges and pressure is in the range.

    I need a remedy. Anyone seen this before?

    I did do several searches and didn't see a solution in the threads I found.

    Thanks.

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    Must be low on freon ?
    If not pressure switch .
    Just a couple of thoughts .
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    Any codes? Including the HVAC module. What does the PCM say about commanded A/C?
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    No Codes & not low on refrigerant.

    I just used the scan tool and if I bump spark advance to 32 degrees at idle using BIDI, it works fine. A/C stays on & doesn't cycle frantically. Either the PCM is looking for more torque loss at idle and it's screwing things up or something like that maybe? I hate to just start screwing with parameters without out a clue what I'm doing. I usually know just enough to be dangerous, but not I'm disarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipsByAl View Post
    Any codes? Including the HVAC module. What does the PCM say about commanded A/C?
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    No codes. Do you mean A/C compensation Spark or one of the IAC PID's? Haven't logged any of those.

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    OK. I called SLP & the pulley is underdriving the a/c by 5% or so according to them. That shouldn't be an issue though, because my idle is well above 5% more than oem parameters. However, It has changed the relationship of the a/c compressor relative to the stock crank pulley, so the question is, what effect does spinning the pulley 5% less have that would make some sensor or the PCM send/receive a signal that makes it think the compressor needs to shut down?

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    What happens if you go back to OEM idle? Does the issue get worse or better?

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    No change. When idle drops below 1000, the A/C compressor starts cycling on and off rapidly. If it is above 1000, no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOMhaveit View Post
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    Either the PCM is looking for more torque loss at idle and it's screwing things up or something like that maybe?
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    That sounds like what is happening...

    There are some AC torque loss tables in the calibration (under Idle), maybe try playing with those.

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    Thanks Joe. For the time being I just set A/C idle to 1050 & doubled the value in B4356 in the 0 to 689 kPa area & it's working fine. Also made sure low side pressure on the A/C is maxed at 35 psi. It's 91 degrees here now & better than 50% humidity.

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