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    Oh, I forgot that you might be logging wideband via AC pressure sensor or EGR position sensor...

    if this is so then we can create a wideband AFR/lambda pid using the EGR voltage...

    you might have to enable EGR in the tunefile.

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    That sounds great Joecar. That would seal the deal with my setup. This is on my wifes 05 4.8LTahoe. i'd like to add to the thread for everyone. Ill post a log soon. Even a scan only V1 would be deluxe!
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    I made the suggested changes Joecar. My "units" look off by quite a bit. The VE table values are very low; seeing 55 should be 125. Also, the MAF table has some larger than anticipated adjustments at 2750Mhz. I do have B0120 set around 3500RPM and my B3616 and B3618 are still in street trim. WO2LAM1 is also invalid. How do I get around this with my setup? THANKS for all the help guys!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TunasTwins View Post
    I made the suggested changes Joecar. My "units" look off by quite a bit. The VE table values are very low; seeing 55 should be 125. Also, the MAF table has some larger than anticipated adjustments at 2750Mhz. I do have B0120 set around 3500RPM and my B3616 and B3618 are still in street trim. WO2LAM1 is also invalid. How do I get around this with my setup? THANKS for all the help guys!!
    Hi Josh,

    Since you don't have a wideband, you will need to use LTFTBEN for correcting the MAF table and calculating the VE table...

    use the attached calc_pids.txt file...

    ( you will only be able to tune Closed Loop, you will then have to extrapolate the delta to the other regions of MAF and VE until you get a wideband )

    Make sure your OS supports the pid GM.DYNAIRTMP_DMA... if not, let me know and I'll modify your calc_pid.txt.



    WO2LAM1 is only valid if you have a wideband connected to FlashScan V2 using a serial comms cable.
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    Set B3618 to something like EQR 1.175 all across, and set B3616 to something like 2002 Camaro (65% TP below 3200 rpm, 35% TP above 3200 rpm).

    You can leave B0120 as is (because with the Calc.VET procedure, the transient filter happens to filter out VE contribution).

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    Giving it a shot now. Thanks Joecar! If I go the Ac pressure route, I'll take the help on setting it up.
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    Should I have the SELBEN in the new calc.pid without the
    *CLC-00-220 factor 0.5 1.5 .4 "iff({CALC.CL}, {CALC.LTFTBEN}, ""{CALC.WO2BEN})""
    CALC.WO2BEN entry? If not, just use the BEN from LTFT for my MAF table?
    Josh
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    Using the BEN from LTFT for the MAF gives sane values. I hooked up my LM-1 again! I am currently messing with the NB simulation output. I have a harness in the car that I ran a couple years ago. The car runs fine (CL) with my current settings and shows .85-.87 lambda when in PE. I need to run the 5v signal to the AC or EGR now.
    Josh
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    Quote Originally Posted by TunasTwins View Post
    Should I have the SELBEN in the new calc.pid without the
    *CLC-00-220 factor 0.5 1.5 .4 "iff({CALC.CL}, {CALC.LTFTBEN}, ""{CALC.WO2BEN})""
    CALC.WO2BEN entry? If not, just use the BEN from LTFT for my MAF table?
    Use the calc_pid.txt file from post #484 (it replaces SELBEN with LTFTBEN)(and it deletes CLC-00-220 and CLC-00-110).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TunasTwins View Post
    Using the BEN from LTFT for the MAF gives sane values. I hooked up my LM-1 again! I am currently messing with the NB simulation output. I have a harness in the car that I ran a couple years ago. The car runs fine (CL) with my current settings and shows .85-.87 lambda when in PE. I need to run the 5v signal to the AC or EGR now.
    Wwhen you're able to get a wideband signal from your LM-1 into your AC pressure sensor signal, we'll edit the calc_pids.txt to use it.

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