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    Would there be any benefit from running Calc.MAFT after using Calc.VET or is Calc.VET good enough at getting the VE table right. The only advantage possibly I can see is by using Calc.MAFT you could see how far you are off in the VE table in % instead of a calculation.

    Thinking out the box since I have only done one Calc.VET so far and think my MAF is spot on but think VE Table probably needs some refining.
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    You could (and probably should) run all the different airmass estimators at the same time. This way you can track if/when any calibration or parts are starting to diverge from each other. Also, it can drive you insane, because they will never be perfect, and you'll just end chasing your tail forever. Just a warning

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecir45 View Post
    Would there be any benefit from running Calc.MAFT after using Calc.VET or is Calc.VET good enough at getting the VE table right. The only advantage possibly I can see is by using Calc.MAFT you could see how far you are off in the VE table in % instead of a calculation.

    Thinking out the box since I have only done one Calc.VET so far and think my MAF is spot on but think VE Table probably needs some refining.
    Post some log files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhardsupra View Post
    Also, it can drive you insane, because they will never be perfect, and you'll just end chasing your tail forever. Just a warning
    I'll keep that in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Post some log files.
    Only one log right now, the ones I made corrections from. Won't be able to get another till this weekend. Will post one next week for evaluation.
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    Log file is after second Calc_VET. Looks allot better, notice rich on deceleration and at low TPS%. At least its not throwing P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 1 and P0175 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 2 codes which it did after first Calc_VET.

    Using a 160 degree tstat that need to swap to a 180 but haven't set up my electric fans in the calibration yet.

    Hopefully I am on the right path, opinions welcomed .
    Last edited by ecir45; April 3rd, 2014 at 08:12 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Upper MAF range:
    - dragging the brakes (increasing load on engine) usually helps to get good data.
    Need to remember to do the above on next Calc_VET.

    Used the Interpolation SpreadSheet for VE tables then manually smoothed un-hit cells and extrapolate the un-hit cells on MAF tables.

    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....on-SpreadSheet
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    Can you post that spreadsheet here, I get "404 not found".

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    Sorry forgot spreadsheet in firt post didn't work see post 31

    http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....l=1#post156166
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    When you log for performing the Calc.VET procedure (or any other tuning) make sure you keep the pid channel count to 24 or less

    i.e. 10 samples/second vs 5 samples/second (or less).

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    I always read 24 or less but didn't think going 25 would make that big a difference . As you probably noticed that log was a log of the tune and not setup with Calc_VET pids, I'll get another log soon.
    Last edited by ecir45; March 25th, 2014 at 01:09 PM.
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    '99 SCSB Stepside Silverado, 5.3, 4L60e, 10 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live

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