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    Also, I don't see the pid CALC.VEN... you're using an older calc_pids.txt file.

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    Also, Frozen is your SELBEN Table plotting vs MAF frequency or RPM?

    At some point it might be easier to just attach the Log with all the MAPS you used.

    I have a feeling their are some issues here that might not allow you to use this log..
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Your scantool still has MAP in psi units (you want kPa)...

    on PIDs tab: on SAE.MAP do rightclick->Metric.


    Also: for maps A and B, in map properties goto each tab Data, Row, Col and checkmark Show Units and save the map.
    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Also, I don't see the pid CALC.VEN... you're using an older calc_pids.txt file.
    Fixed and changed to the correct settings.

    Correct I do Not have CALC.VEN selected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeathermanShawn View Post
    Also, Frozen is your SELBEN Table plotting vs MAF frequency or RPM?

    At some point it might be easier to just attach the Log with all the MAPS you used.

    I have a feeling their are some issues here that might not allow you to use this log..
    My SELBEN table is logging MAF frequency Hz.

    I just did another drive and was able to get some wot logs. I noticed my alternator is not keeping up at idle (which means I'm loosing voltage to everything) and thats when I'm getting the knock. But at 3500 up to wot I'm not getting any knock. I'm going to see if I can find a new alternator tomarrow after work and get it installed. Then my only other thought was maybe it didn't like the 90 octain pump gas anymore.

    Just let me know what images or whatever you guys want to see and I'll get them posted.
    You guys are very helpful with this. Thanks.
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    Frozen:

    It just looks like your MAF Frequency Labels don't match your Tune Labels. Your log is every 400 Hz..Is that what you want? When you copy, paste & multiply you want your labels to match. Just keep that in mind.

    My personal preference is the most recent Tune & Log. Unless one is highly skilled in posting attachments, a lot of data is missing.

    I think you have 90% of this down..just a few outstanding issues. Its good you have the mechanical skills to fix your vehicle.

    Post up your most recent Tune & Log when you get your mechanical issues straightened out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeathermanShawn View Post
    Frozen:

    It just looks like your MAF Frequency Labels don't match your Tune Labels. Your log is every 400 Hz..Is that what you want? When you copy, paste & multiply you want your labels to match. Just keep that in mind.

    My personal preference is the most recent Tune & Log. Unless one is highly skilled in posting attachments, a lot of data is missing.

    I think you have 90% of this down..just a few outstanding issues. Its good you have the mechanical skills to fix your vehicle.

    Post up your most recent Tune & Log when you get your mechanical issues straightened out..
    I just checked, it looks like in the tuner tool the maf is labled every 125 so I'll change it to that. But it looks like I have to enter each one in the Row Lables.
    In the Scan Tool. Is it ok to have 400 hz as my lowest number in the map? Then add 125 to that and enter my next number (which would be 525) and so fourth?


    Up here there isn't really anyone that does anything with these LSX engines. Let alone have and run one of this level. So I have to do things myself and if I don't know I learn it. Also it's nice having 2 cars so I can take a part off of one car and try it if I need to.

    My tune isn't going to change until after I can get a clean log and I can start copy and pasting. But I'll get a new log up after I get the new alternator on it.
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    You don't need to enter each label...



    Goto table B5001, click in upper left corner, then rightclick->Copy With Labels...

    then in map Row and Col tabs click Paste Labels.

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    Hi Shawn,

    Attached here is a new calc_pids.txt which replaces CALC.PE with CALC.CL just as we discussed today.


    Edit: I found an error due to my editing skills (== should be =), so I corrected and re-attached the file.
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    Update: Shawn has updated the calc_pids.txt file in post #1.

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    All of the calc_pids.txt file have been updated on Page 1 of this thread: http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....l=1#post135867

    The changes allow for a more precise definition of closed-loop vs PE. The only time a user should encounter trouble is if they have changed their PE EQ to 1.00 (don't ever recommend that) or changed a majority of Table B3605 to read EQ's of 1.00.

    Otherwise the Pid is a very accurate definer of closed-loop.

    The Tutorial will take some more time to update.

    Thank you for your patience.
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    EFILive Closed-Loop MAF/SD Hybrid Tune..


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