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    Post some screenshots.

    On the PIDs tab, do the pids CALC.VET and CALC.VEN have red X thru them...?

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    Hmmm, CALC.VET data looks wrong... MAF data looks ok.

    Need more data, drive around the block.

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    Fix this:

    Out of Range calibration summary: 04:00:37 am, Friday May 22, 2015

    Engine Calibration.Abuse Management
    {B1207} Abuse Management Vehicle Speed Threshold, was out of range when loaded.

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    Is your FPR manifold-referenced or un-referenced...?

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    Thanks for the quick response Joecar!

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Post some screenshots.

    On the PIDs tab, do the pids CALC.VET and CALC.VEN have red X thru them...?
    No they don't, see screen capture below:



    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Hmmm, CALC.VET data looks wrong... MAF data looks ok.

    Need more data, drive around the block.
    Okay, I'll do that. I did the math on a calculator and couldn't get it to line up either.

    One thing I noticed, the temps dob't look right. The dynamic (DAT) air temps are negative and/or really low. But the IAT sensor looks accurate. Weird.

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Fix this:
    Just did - thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Is your FPR manifold-referenced or un-referenced...?
    Vacuum in not-referenced. Using a corvette-fuel filter a few feet off the tank with a single line to the rail.
    00 Silverado Z71, LQ9 w/ LS3 heads, BTR cam, Whipple 2.9@8#, 4l80E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastCall View Post
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    One thing I noticed, the temps dob't look right. The dynamic (DAT) air temps are negative and/or really low. But the IAT sensor looks accurate. Weird.

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    Vacuum in not-referenced. Using a corvette-fuel filter a few feet off the tank with a single line to the rail.
    If GM.DYNAIRTMP_DMA pid is returning bad values, then for now use (temporary solution) IAT in place of DAT, and do take a look at how to create the pid CALC.B4901 in the Calc.VET thread.

    Ok, so your FPR has no reference hose going to the manifold (or any source of vacuum and/or boost).



    I see it in your log, your CALC.DAT being wrong is causing bad CALC.VET.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    If GM.DYNAIRTMP_DMA pid is returning bad values, then for now use (temporary solution) IAT in place of DAT, and do take a look at how to create the pid CALC.B4901 in the Calc.VET thread.

    Ok, so your FPR has no reference hose going to the manifold (or any source of vacuum and/or boost).

    I see it in your log, your CALC.DAT being wrong is causing bad CALC.VET.
    I found the calc_pid text file with 4901 and replaced the old calc_pid file. That seems to have fixed the DAT.K temp issues. However, the values still seem really low. Based on the LTFTBEN, I should be multiplying the values by 1.05-1.10 (increase of about 10%). However, on the BEN calculated VE, I should reduce the values by about 25%. See screen capture below:



    00 Silverado Z71, LQ9 w/ LS3 heads, BTR cam, Whipple 2.9@8#, 4l80E

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    Here is the VE table I was reffering to when I was comparing the calculated values in the MAP and the values in the VET table.

    00 Silverado Z71, LQ9 w/ LS3 heads, BTR cam, Whipple 2.9@8#, 4l80E

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    You haven't applied the transient filter... but I don't think that's the problem.

    How is the MAF table coming out, post a pic of it.

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    You show two maps:
    1. VET [g*K/kPa] x MAP x RPM,
    2. LTFTBEN [%] x MAP x RPM,

    are you calculating the VE or are you correcting it...?

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