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    Default Problem with my Head/Cam 98 LS1 camaro - files attached

    I finally got efi live tonight and have been playing around with it.

    My car idles around 1200 so I set the Idle to 950 under paramaters but it didnt change.

    I also corrected my shift points and speedo. I had 3:73 and 255/50 and put on 275/60 and 4:10.

    Seems to be shifting better now but the idle still hasn;t come down any and the short and long term seem very high.

    Lastly my tccslip max was 1389?


    Could someone take a look and point me in the right direction?

    The log is backing out of driveway, then going up the road and making a WOT pass 1,2,and into D
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    Thanks for the links Joe! I'm trying to learn as much as possible since I have a few weeks off.

    I have a TCI 3200 Stall in the car and a TCI Super Street Fighter 4l60e. Cam is a texas speed .581 224/224.

    I have an innovate wideband in the car but the 02 is giving me sensor error type*=8 errors so I am gonna replace the 02 and connect it to the EFILive box.

    I had problems hitting 2-3 limiter a couple weeks ago so I got the software so I can fix my shifting and spray it again

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    After looking at the data in my scan tool, it says the car is idleing at 950 but the tach says 1050-1100.

    So I should trust what EFILive RPM PID says vs the tach right?

    Now I have to figure out how to tune my STFT and LTFT as they seem to be way off in my logs.

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    Blackflag, it would be impossible to address every area of your concern, but a few comments.

    First off, only select 24 Channels MAX. 47 Channels will slow your scan to a crawl and your data will lag. It appears you are running Closed-Loop with MAF enabled. A H/C car will require a lot more Airflow via the MAF/VE and resultant fueling. I.E., your MAF flow is stock..you need to calibrate it.

    You should at least read the CALC.VET Tutorial: http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....tire-VE-Table.

    Its not always possible to walk every user through all the complexities of Tuning, so I suggest you at least read the Tutorial and complete thread, and think it over.

    Idle is a 8 hour job, maybe more if an auto. Though tailored more toward M6, you might want to look through the Idle Tutorial: http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....ips-amp-Tricks

    Best thing to do is spend some time doing some research and try a few things yourself.

    Good luck..
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    Thanks a lot for the reply man,

    I'm reading as much as I can right now. Just trying to figure out where to start. I have corrected my shift points which was my main problem, not I'm trying to figure out where to go next. I have an Innovate wideband in the car, so I'm hooking it up very soon.

    Thanks for the info. I will read the links you listed and keep playing with it. I know there is a lot more power left in my current tune.

    Josh

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    Josh, I would probably trust your EFILive Pid over the Tach.

    That also matches your Tune Rpm..

    I would start with your MAF Calibration first..You are probably going to need to add ~ +20% to all its values. That will get your Trims in line. But do some reading and logging first..
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    Yeah I figured my factory tach is off my about 100-200 RPM or so based on what my RPM PID is saying.

    I'm reading your pdf tutorial and starting to tune the MAF first. I'm going to try to do it without the wideband for now since my innovate O2 sensor is acting up a WOT. I'll order a new innovate 02 sensor and go back through you document again.
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    With the NBO2's you can do both MAF and VE in one log (the PT/CL sections)...

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    So I can do the CALC.VET instructions and this will dial in my MAF and VE using the stock NBO2's right? Basically just follow the instructions in the link http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....tire-VE-Table provided by shawn.

    I'm installing a new Innovate o2 sensor tomorrow and ordered a serial cable from http://taquickness.com/taqcables.htm to go from the innovate box to Efi Live. Hopefully that will help me get it dialed in eventually. Its just overwhelming getting started

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