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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007 5.9 View Post
    Yes, the entire table to 25*

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    Quote Originally Posted by icem237 View Post
    I let you know my results!
    It might not work as well...every truck acts differently.

    But should get you on the right path.

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    Just to clairfy, i dont think Les means he put the whole entire table to 25, just that individual area! lol

    Ice, it may be a good idea to study for a brief moment the effects pilot timing has on main timing during the injection event... The same information from duramaxes will apply to this also.
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    Well here is what i figured out. The pilot has a adjustment for temp and the main does not. the only way im going to get the start up to work right is if there is a way to get the pilot to work up to a certain temp and then it can sshut off.

    Just to clarify its only at startup do i have this issue and once it idles its fine unless i shut down again before the engine temp is at atleast around 170 i would say. Once at least that warm it starts up perfectly.

    So unless there is a way to either A. add the temp adjustment to the main injection timing tab or B. temporarilly turn on the pilot till the temp gets up to somewhere around 170.

    Unless anyone has any ideas ill just add the pilot back in and roll it off at a certain point.

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    I figured it our ..... Had 0 to do the the base timing of the main injection. It had everyhing to do with he main event cranking timeing. Adjusted that and it works flawlessly no matter what the egine coolant temp is.


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    Thats strange....mine had everything to do with main timing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007 5.9 View Post
    Thats strange....mine had everything to do with main timing...

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    Im not sure les. maybe with all the mods you have it responded differently. I know my base table needs tweaking but atleast it starts and drives properly now.

    I just advanced it up in the 60 - 100 *F range. Fires up perfectly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icem237 View Post
    Adjusted that and it works flawlessly no matter what the egine coolant temp is.

    I just advanced it up in the 60 - 100 *F range. Fires up perfectly now.
    I'm a little confused. Not trying to be an arse either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUBAR View Post
    I'm a little confused. Not trying to be an arse either.
    Lol im sorry. I get ahead of myself sometimes and do not state things clearly.

    The truth is that for me with the pilot off , I had to adjust the main injection engine startup timing. Once i advanced the time up, from 0-900 RPM in the 60 to 100*F range it starts perfectly with zero smoke.

    All along i thought it was the main injection base timing. So i just took a shot in the dark, thinking well it only does the rough stuff a second or 2 at startup so why not try and advance the timing during start up. Sure enough it worked.

    Before the adjustment i had hard start where it would white smoke for about 60 seconds and run rough, then clear up and idle fine and drive out ok. To put it in perspective , it smoked just like a stuck injector at startup. Thats alot of white smoke. Even had my injectors tested to make sure they were ok.

    Hope its alittle more clear now.

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    Wanted to say thank you for everyone's patients ...... lol I know it can be aggravating.
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