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    Hey guys I have a mail order tune and being that i'm a novice at tuning i'd like you to take a look at my log and tune files. I have a 04 Silverado SS with the 6.0L. Mods include a tr224 cam, long tube headers, no cats, magnaflow muffler, cai, 8.1l truck injectors, tr55ix plugs, Taylor 10.4 plug wires, ported and polished tb, built 4l65e trans with stock converter, e-fans.
    The cam is on a 112lsa, and you can tell it's not stock, but the idle doesn't have the tuned cam sound to it. I noticed my ltft's are way off and I need to get this down. I also raised my shift points to 6000rpm, and lowered my fan turn on and off temps.

    This tune has to get me by for a few months as I have a turbo ready to go on, and a new motor and trans in the works now. When I get the motor and turbo in i'm going with COS3 and running a sd tune.

    Let me know what you think.
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    Hi sinr98,

    A few quick comments:
    - B3616 and B3615 are too restrictive, set these to 65% below 3200 and 35% above 3200.
    - B3605 and B3648 are too lean when ECT is cold, set these tables to stock values.
    - B3601 is wrong if you're using pump gas which contains some amount of alcohol (I'm not sure how your PCM detects flex fuel).
    - D0961 and D0962 set these to 100% (same as D0960) to avoid conflict with PT up/down shift tables.

    [ I'm not critiquing the mail order tune, I'm just looking at improvements ]

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    Thanks for the help Joe. I have made the changes other than the B3601. What should the AFR be at? Shouldn't it be commanding 14.68 with any alcohol content? The truck isn't a flex fuel truck. It is a 91octane and up only fuel. Thanks again Joe.

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    In the US, the following fuels can be found at the pump:
    - gasoline which would have stoich 14.6-14.7 if it contained no alcohol.
    - E10 which would have stoich 14.12 if it was really 10% alcohol, but it has been found to be as high as 15%.
    - E85 which would have stoich 9.7 if it was really 85% alcohol.

    There are alcohol content test kits (about $20-$30), these allow you to measure your gas and look up the stoich value to use for B3601.

    Then do all of your logging/tuning in EQR/Lambda... e.g. log GM.EQIVRATIO and EXT.WO2LAM1 (if you have V2) or CALC.AFR_LC11/14.7 (if you have an LC-1 connected to a V1, for example)... your BEN will now be EQIVRATIO*WO2LAM1 or EQIVRATIO*AFR_LC11/14.7.


    See the Calc.VET tutorial thread for more info on this.

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    I get what your saying with the alcohol content. Is it worth it to find out what the content is due to the fact that I use several fuel suppliers?
    I will do some logs with the wideband next week and post that up too. The truck runs great but I know there is more in it for sure.

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    You can use "close enough"... ask your fuel supplier what they say and use that... e.g. if they say E10 then use 14.12...

    but, you're taking the effort to use a COS and you expect the most from your engine.

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    You can get the LTFT's close to zero by doing the Calc.VET tutorial.

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