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    Default 5.9L Pulsewidth and Fueling unlocked

    One of the biggest single requests we've had since our first public release was to develop additional controls for more RPM's.

    Parameters have been modified, added to, changed and pulled in every direction to provide the best control possible. However, it's been a bit of a double edged sword. While RPM controls have been taken care of (remember the 5,400RPM run by Fleece), there have been other factors sitting in the background still limiting the overall results.

    These have been Fueling limiters and final injection pulsewidth limiters.

    Once our 2012 GM gasser stuff was sorted out we got right back on to the Cummins. Steady progress has been made over a number of weeks. We set about "hacking" an OS and finding a suitable test truck. The test truck came from one of our beta tester's customers, with just one problem - all the testing would be done remotely to the beta tester. Not ideal, but it was a start. Within the first week, the boys had hit the first jackpot - another limiter had been found. But it quickly dawned that there were further pieces to the puzzle, so it was back to the drawing board.

    We created some custom PID's in the scan tool to log what was happening within the many limiter routines and several more of our beta testers now had trucks that were able to run our custom OS to speed up feedback, and test on both auto and manual trucks.

    Yesterday, with a highly modified OS patch job, and some custom PID's our testers successfully moved to the next level. What they discovered wasn't a commanded fuel limiter as such, but it was limiting fuel.

    We now have about 6 trucks (both auto and manual transmissions) running around with unlimited fueling to 3600RPM.

    One of our beta testers commented " 3000pw all the way to 3600 rpms! Suffering pressure loss for the first time and that makes me happy!" This truck runs twins, larger nozzles, so I guess it's not really stock.

    What this means is that we've now hit the next level of limiters and require the next level of trucks to continue developing these parameters. Stock just isn't going to cut it from here on up! The next limit seems to be kicking in around 3800 RPM and we are working on resolving this as we speak.

    The new parameter to stop the pulse width drop will be in our next software release, scheduled for next week. If for some reason it doesn't make the cut for the next release, we'll release a patch once they are mapped out for all OS's.

    Below is a screen shot from the scan tool showing on one of these beta trucks that they have now gone past the capability of the fuel system because there is now so much fuel being injected, nearly 3000uS injector pulse time at 3,400RPM.

    With this breakthrough it's fair to say that if you (or your tuner) aren't using EFILive then you are going to get left behind because up to now no other tuner has been able to maintain such high injection pulse times to this RPM.

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    Beta has worked really hard on this but guys understand this...Ross (gmpx) has achieved as a developer what no other company has done..and he has been in it for less time than any of the big dogs. Remember, while cummins has.gotten this far..he has still maintained updating operating systems, answering questions, and advancing Efilive while all at the same time of breaking barriers with cummins. Ross, pat yourself on the back brother..we appreciate what you guys have set on the table for us... keep up the amazing work!
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    I got to say i have been given a chance to beta test a tune with these newly open fuel limiting tables. All i got to say is my truck runs like I spent $6000 in the motor. It's not the same truck. I like to give a BIG THANKS to EFI LIVE guys for the hard work and time in the development in making the cummins owners dreams come true. Thanks beta team! (KW-man u work your magic on this tune)
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    Thanks for the ongoing effort, Ross and crew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmaxink View Post
    Beta has worked really hard on this but guys understand this...Ross (gmpx) has achieved as a developer what no other company has done..and he has been in it for less time than any of the big dogs. Remember, while cummins has.gotten this far..he has still maintained updating operating systems, answering questions, and advancing Efilive while all at the same time of breaking barriers with cummins. Ross, pat yourself on the back brother..we appreciate what you guys have set on the table for us... keep up the amazing work!

    Agreed!! Thanks again EFI Live Team!!

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    good deal

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    Thanks for the hard work.!

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    I havent had a chance to tune a Cummins yet, but watching these developments unfold in pretty rapid succession is amazing. Might not seem fast to most people, but I know how it works in the IT world, and coding is time consuming to say the least.

    Lets see some bigger #s with fully built trucks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22 View Post
    I havent had a chance to tune a Cummins yet, but watching these developments unfold in pretty rapid succession is amazing. Might not seem fast to most people, but I know how it works in the IT world, and coding is time consuming to say the least.

    Lets see some bigger #s with fully built trucks!
    Our dyno is down but hopefully we will getting the computer for it next week. I have two trucks that both have a dual pumps,twins and fully built lower ends. From the way these trucks are on the street I'm gonna guess and say we've gotten atleast 100hp more but hopefully next week I'll have some before and after dyno sheets.

    Thanks to the EFI Live crew

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    I set the new table to "Minimum" and not only did uS suffer drastically, so did mm3. And the only change to the tune was modifying the new table. Minimum means the limiter minimally limits pulsewidth for longest pulsewidth possible..right?

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