Stock vs Smarty vs EFi Live

[Dmaxink]

Now would be a perfect time to take this thread back on topic FWIW, thanks Todd for admitting wrong doing...now BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE...this is EFILIVE forum.

[GMPX]

No Problem...Ross any guess when EFILive will be available for 03/05? Hopefully Before 2012.. I will be tuning our 06 Race Truck With EFILive,would also like to do My 05 and 03 this winter.

03/05 won't be out this year Todd, 6.7L first, the 6.7L ECM comes in two flavours, the 2007 - 2009, then another 2010+, we should have some of the 2010+ ECM's here shortly to be able to see what the deal with them is.
I'm not saying the 03-05 is going on the back burner, I'm just being a realist that 6.7L is going to take a fair amount of time to conquer due to all the added complexity of the stricter emissions controls in place.

[TCDiesel]

Great...I will just Buy an 06-07 truck.. and tune..Our race 06 Truck did 837 with Banks BD Stack , it did perform well at Schieds..It will be Tune with EFILive for Next season ...I need some Tuning Time ...Jim is taking the 2 wheel (little Red) 06 to somebody in ID for Tuning (EFILive).But 1st we are going to upgrade the 120 Pump.Many know Jim was missing most of the Summer events due to the 2509 code that plagued us for Months,hopefully he will be back.. tuned and ready for next season.

[olboyowl]

I still would like to know what turned out when Les put a bigger turbo on, or if he has yet on the particular truck...

also cant wait to here how this turns out. i want to see how much power a stock fuel system will make with an aftermarket charger. what size charger was is he lookin at les?

[AdamRRT]

I know this doesn't mean much since it wasn't being tuned, and it's not EFI Live. But just so you guys have info to add to your collection of data. I switched from a stock turbo to my current one. Granted this dyno has consistently read 8-10% lower than dynos we've compared to. The tuning was primitive being a Smarty and I just wanted to see what it did as a comparison between the turbos both on TNT7, so it wasn't done to tune. Just to compare.

Dyno numbers:
Stock fuel, stock tune.
247hp, 478ft-lbs.

Stock turbo, Smarty TNT SW 7, RP 1 (stock), TQ 4, TI 2, Quad XZ2 rail pressure pressure setting 1 out of 4:
460hp, 935ft-lbs

Same electronic settings, after E.D. 62/68/12:
477hp, 953ft-lbs

Of course after the bigger tips I'm sure it's doing MUCH better. Undeniably so. I really want to upgrade the turbo or go with an S475 under my current turbo, add a modded CP3, and get an EFI Live tune on her.

[2007 5.9]

I know this doesn't mean much since it wasn't being tuned, and it's not EFI Live. But just so you guys have info to add to your collection of data. I switched from a stock turbo to my current one. Granted this dyno has consistently read 8-10% lower than dynos we've compared to. The tuning was primitive being a Smarty and I just wanted to see what it did as a comparison between the turbos both on TNT7, so it wasn't done to tune. Just to compare.

Dyno numbers:
Stock fuel, stock tune.
247hp, 478ft-lbs.

Stock turbo, Smarty TNT SW 7, RP 1 (stock), TQ 4, TI 2, Quad XZ2 rail pressure pressure setting 1 out of 4:
460hp, 935ft-lbs

Same electronic settings, after E.D. 62/68/12:
477hp, 953ft-lbs

Of course after the bigger tips I'm sure it's doing MUCH better. Undeniably so. I really want to upgrade the turbo or go with an S475 under my current turbo, add a modded CP3, and get an EFI Live tune on her.

That is typical...without proper fueling, a modded/larger turbo will net approx a 30hp increase over previous turbo.

Your finding are similar to mine...I dont expect to see huge gain when we upgrade this customers truck with a Super B Special....but it should put it over 500hp for sure.

Then again, '06 we did a while ago..66mm, stock sticks, TNT/TST stack did 607hp on our dyno...

~Les

[ScarabEpic22]

Great...I will just Buy an 06-07 truck.. and tune..Our race 06 Truck did 837 with Banks BD Stack , it did perform well at Schieds..It will be Tune with EFILive for Next season ...I need some Tuning Time ...Jim is taking the 2 wheel (little Red) 06 to somebody in ID for Tuning (EFILive).But 1st we are going to upgrade the 120 Pump.Many know Jim was missing most of the Summer events due to the 2509 code that plagued us for Months,hopefully he will be back.. tuned and ready for next season.

IdahoRob down in Boise? And by blaine, do you mean Blaine, WA?

[olboyowl]

That is typical...without proper fueling, a modded/larger turbo will net approx a 30hp increase over previous turbo.

Your finding are similar to mine...I dont expect to see huge gain when we upgrade this customers truck with a Super B Special....but it should put it over 500hp for sure.

Then again, '06 we did a while ago..66mm, stock sticks, TNT/TST stack did 607hp on our dyno...

~Les

will be interesting to see.