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    Default Fuel duration limiter troubles!

    I have been having problems with tunes lately since the new option of setting the limiting of duration . What has happend is when using say OS 11501001 , which is for an 07 manual, everything else in tuning works but when you set the duration limiter to minimum it makes no change. I tried other 06 OS's for manual and ran into the same problem. I reused the stock tune from my truck which still has the high idle enabled (os 11352602), and well it worked till yesterday i just reconfigured my pedal postion tables and saved, loaded as normal with no hitches. Get out and hammer it in when it hits 3400rpm, bam it dropped off.... Now this same tune has worked the past few days till I adjusted the pedal position. Shouldnt have any bearing on the duration limiter. Filters are new, good fuel, so on and so forth.

    I talked with FUBAR , and hes been having the same issues. I have tried reinstalling 7.5 and 8.2 softwares, making sure all firmware is the latest, umm just about everything i can think of . Tried making a script of the current tune and running over clean copy of my stock tune and still the same results . Really frustrating.

    This with andrews issues being the same , Im suprised some big tuners havent seen this yet. May not happen with all OS's im not sure.

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    As stated by icem237, I can concur with what he is saying. I had this issue a little while ago. The new pulse limiter option did not work with my original OS. So I tried a different one out of the Tune Depot. Still didn't work. Kory was kind enough to help me with this issue. But even he couldn't make sense of it other than it may be programming issues. So as a hail mary, he sent me his personal tune with a different OS that he knew that worked, and I had success. So I manually copied values out of my old OS into the new one that worked from Kory's and the pulse limit option did not work. Also Kory did have my original OS on file with one of his tunes, and it worked which is weird because it doesn't on mine. I can send somebody the same tune to download on the same OS or manually copy/script/update to mine from somebody else and the pulse limiter will not work. ***EDIT*** mine will cut pulse starting at 2800rpm on up and will cut down to 1300uS or so what ever mm3 it's referencing, which around 75mm3 or so off the top of my head.

    I can't even fathom being a professional tuner and selling tunes to somebody not knowing the the tune will program or flash right and not perform correctly.

    I just hope people that might be experiencing this issue will come forward and hopefully not be fooled that just because their truck runs great now, that they don't know the difference. The only way for something to get fixed, is to recognize the problem. Hopefully Kory will chime in on this as well.

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    We hope to release another update this week with the second pulse limiter bypass in there, I guarantee that will stop any pulse reduction, I think see how you go on that one.
    There's also another fix in there that everyone will be happy to hear about
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMPX View Post
    There's also another fix in there that everyone will be happy to hear about
    Nothing like creating excitement of anticipation Ross! And glad to hear about the previously stated being fixed.

    Thanks again,
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    Duhh I'm not thinking...Andrew- the tune I sent you has that latest beta update in it :-) lol you can't see it because Ross has not released it yet..but that limiter is turned off in the OS I sent u that full fuels....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmaxink View Post
    Duhh I'm not thinking...Andrew- the tune I sent you has that latest beta update in it :-) lol you can't see it because Ross has not released it yet..but that limiter is turned off in the OS I sent u that full fuels....lol
    I did the same thing today...sent a customer a tune...we met up and I looked at his logs and compared to the tune.

    Noticed that none if the new limiter disables were there...tore my hair out loading and reloading sw, only to realize that they are on my laptop with the beta calz but in his they aren't since they aren't public yet!!!

    Dummy!!!

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    Glad to see i wasnt the only one Les! I just literally thought about this seeing Fubar's post!
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    Anyway to get an early release of this. I have a customers 06 automatic truck that is doing the exact same thing. He wants to go racing this weekend and I've tried everything to make this thing fuel to no avail.

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    I am having problems with pulse-width limiting also. Not sure if it is the same problem that you guys are having, or if it's just my fault. I have tried about everything that I can think of with no luck. Admittedly, I little experience with efilive. This is the first tune that I have been playing with, and I'm just trying to get a good feel for each setting before I start over and make more of a educated tune. The tune is not something that I am that proud of at the moment, or is anywhere near complete - just getting a feel for it. If anyone would be willing to give me some feedback I would really appreciate it!

    Tune:
    Mike_Dorsey_First_Tune - Mild - No_Post_Inj.ctd

    Data log:
    MD First Tune No Pilot roll-on 5th gear3.efi

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    Seems like i have found a glitch, Im not sure whats happening. But it seems when i make changes several times to a file that im working on (exact number of times varies), the duration limiter gets fauled up and stops working. Because after trying everything i can think of for past few days, i finally took my stock file ran a script on it and bam the limiter control is functioning again . Im not sure if files are corrupting or its a software related issue. But Im going to change this file several times and see if i can reproduce this glitch.
    06 2500 SLT 4x4 , G56, 105,000 miles, 2nd exhaust manifold, 2nd gen air intake horn, SBC 3600 DD, I. I. 90HP Sticks, straight pipe, manual high idle mod, custom air intake , and pretty much everything else engine wise is stock... LEARNING EFI LIVE

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