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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar
    Yes, feel free to add that too, and any helpful information.

    I haven't put a shift kit in a PCM controlled trans., so I don't have direct experience with the effects of this on adaptive learning.

    I would caution about removing TM althogether since it can be hard on the drivetrain (would require stronger parts in the trans. and on back).

    If the trans. is fairly stock, I would reduce TM/TR some amount, but not all the way.

    If trans. is built up, and driver doesn't mind the feel, then there's quite a few people who have zeroed out TM/TR with no problem.
    Good points about TM. Heavy clutches and an hardened output shaft, at least, would be good. If a hi stall converter is used it will soften the blows.
    Before I knew about adaptive learning I notice that the reprogrammed shifts were getting softer. It was over a long period. Months. It's been at least a year since zeroing shift times and no changes have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfpilla
    Before I knew about adaptive learning I notice that the reprogrammed shifts were getting softer. It was over a long period. Months. It's been at least a year since zeroing shift times and no changes have happened.
    Good piece of information;
    this must happen because the trans is not aware that the pressure/flow is supposed to be at the increased level with the shift kit, so it tries its best to learn the shifts back down.
    Interesting.

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    Guys,

    I am so glad this thread lives on! Nice job in gathering the info! I can see that this tutorial will be a work in progress. I happen to have a couple A4's in the shop for packages and I look forward in applying these lessons.

    Its amazing that the tranny calibrating can be as exercising as the PCM tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports
    Guys,

    I am so glad this thread lives on! Nice job in gathering the info! I can see that this tutorial will be a work in progress. I happen to have a couple A4's in the shop for packages and I look forward in applying these lessons.

    Its amazing that the tranny calibrating can be as exercising as the PCM tuning.

    Howard
    Sure can. I have had a lot of stock or semi-stock cars that just want tranny adjustments. World of difference from the stock settings.

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    10 4, will update with the extra comments and change the PDF now.
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    You might want to reconsider recommending synthetic fluid. Dexron lll ATF non synthetic for warranty.
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...t=tranny+fluid
    Last edited by jfpilla; February 23rd, 2006 at 04:55 PM.
    2003 red vert
    Mods:
    LS7 crate engine, wet sump, 24xx reluctor
    LPE 100mm MAF
    Vararam, cold air intake and bridge
    RPM Level 6/4L60e trans
    3.42 gears
    Yank SS3600
    1-7/8" AR headers
    Z06 exhaust
    470rwhp 437rwtq
    1/8th mi-1.526-60'-6.862-1/8th-@100.74mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfpilla
    You might want to reconsider recommending synthetic fluid. Dextron lll ATF non synthetic for warranty.
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...t=tranny+fluid
    Could be...

    I'm using Mobil 1 Synthetic Dexron III (which meets the GM specifications including the friction holding characteristics).

    I haven't had any problems with it, and I push my car hard at least once a day, but that's my trans. with my calibration/tune with me driving, and I change my ATF and filter every 15K miles (including TC flush).

    I can't say with any authority, but I suspect those people's trans. may have already had a problem regardless of fluid, of course I may be proven totally wrong in saying this; my opinion only.

    You're right, I should not be recommending synthetic ATF.

    Edit: I'm wondering if those people had already firmed up their shifts (pressures and times)....?

    Last edited by joecar; February 24th, 2006 at 09:12 AM.

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    This is from the Amsoil webpage...

    2001 PONTIAC FIREBIRD 5.7L 8-cyl VIN Code G
    LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS

    Engine Oil

    Grade 1......API*
    Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
    SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
    SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
    SAE 5W-30 XL Synthetic Motor Oil
    Above 0°F......10W-30
    All Temps......5W-30[1]

    Manual Transmission,.....AF3
    Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
    Torque-Drive™ Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATD)

    Automatic Transmission.....AF3
    Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
    Torque-Drive™ Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATD)

    Standard Differential, Rear .....GL-5[2]
    75W-90
    Severe Gear 75W-90
    SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube

    Controlled Slip Differential, Rear .....GL-5*[3][4]
    75W-90
    Severe Gear 75W-90
    This is unlike the statement made by one person that 'Amsoil' recommends against.

    But anyway, I'm on a search now to see what people have to say about this....

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    I use amsoil automatic trans fluid,No problems so far...............Paul

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    I have always used non-synthetic fluid because of what I have read on other forums. Maybe they were wrong.

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