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    Quote Originally Posted by Taz View Post
    The economic market system is what is "doing this" - has since the dawn of the industrial age. I remember when gasoline was $0.35 a gallon, a new Chev pickup was $2,200 and a modest first home could be purchased for $25,000.

    In my area gasoline is current $5.69 a gallon (Imperial), a new Chev Silverado is $25,000 plus, and you can't find a habitable starter home for less than $200,000.

    If you are working on a vehicle with both an ECM and TCM - the "other" tuning software suite charges a licence fee for each controller - EFILive charges one licence fee per controller pair - that equates to half the licencing cost of the other software provider.


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    I'm not quite sure you understood my angle there Taz.

    When the AUD was at USD$0.70, we paid the USD$110 or so licence fee (so, AUD$150+). Now, we're at or over parity and rather than us being positioned to take advantage of the currency situation and pay a similar amount to you blokes (comparatively), we cannot - the price went up. So, rather than our stronger currency enabling us to get the same licence, for which you've paid $110 for a long time, at around the AUD$110-115 mark, the goalposts have moved and we're now paying more, again.

    Oh and for a comparison, a house here costs $300k+, a basic Holden utility 6cyl, costs $30k+ and we pay AUD$7, or thereabouts for an Imperial Gallon of fuel. In Melbourne the other day, fuel rose by AUD$0.20 a litre ($0.90/imp. gallon) overnight.

    I've been to plenty of lands around the world and comparatively, we pay a LOT more than other places for the same things.

    A set of Yella Terra LS1 rockers - made here - cost us AUD$700-800 to buy here. If we source from a US-reseller, we can expect to pay AUD$450-500 - landed back here!

    I'll reiterate, I'm not singling out EFILive, but it is a frustration when we constantly seem to get less value for our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca33 View Post
    A set of Yella Terra LS1 rockers - made here - cost us AUD$700-800 to buy here. If we source from a US-reseller, we can expect to pay AUD$450-500 - landed back here!
    That is STUPID !!!!

    So Just buy them from a US-reseller and have them put on Will-Call at the factory

    -Justin

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca33 View Post
    I'm not quite sure you understood my angle there Taz.

    When the AUD was at USD$0.70, we paid the USD$110 or so licence fee (so, AUD$150+). Now, we're at or over parity and rather than us being positioned to take advantage of the currency situation and pay a similar amount to you blokes (comparatively), we cannot - the price went up. So, rather than our stronger currency enabling us to get the same licence, for which you've paid $110 for a long time, at around the AUD$110-115 mark, the goalposts have moved and we're now paying more, again.

    Oh and for a comparison, a house here costs $300k+, a basic Holden utility 6cyl, costs $30k+ and we pay AUD$7, or thereabouts for an Imperial Gallon of fuel. In Melbourne the other day, fuel rose by AUD$0.20 a litre ($0.90/imp. gallon) overnight.

    I've been to plenty of lands around the world and comparatively, we pay a LOT more than other places for the same things.

    A set of Yella Terra LS1 rockers - made here - cost us AUD$700-800 to buy here. If we source from a US-reseller, we can expect to pay AUD$450-500 - landed back here!

    I'll reiterate, I'm not singling out EFILive, but it is a frustration when we constantly seem to get less value for our money.

    cheers

    Have you thought about moving? I had a great time when I flew through there when I was in the Air Force, maybe its just better to visit, lol.

    Thats crazy. In Brenham 30 mins from here they make Blue Bell Ice Cream, its more expensive in the town they make than it here 30 mins away, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minytrker View Post
    Have you thought about moving? I had a great time when I flew through there when I was in the Air Force, maybe its just better to visit, lol.

    Thats crazy. In Brenham 30 mins from here they make Blue Bell Ice Cream, its more expensive in the town they make than it here 30 mins away, lol.

    Nah mate, wouldn't live anywhere else in the world as this is the best place to be! I 'spose I was trying to highlight the fact that we always seem to get rear-ended here on pricing, no matter what other economies are like, due to the economy of scale and the fact that living standards are fairly high.

    cheers

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    You know what would be nice is a "shade Tree" Package. Meaning a V2 unit with just one license for the DIY'er at a reduced cost ~ $500-600 dollars . That may appeal to a larger audience.

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    Macca, it's not an AUD vs USD issue, it's NZD vs USD (remember EFILive is NZ based), the NZD trend isn't the same as AUD against the US dollar. It would probably be a bigger increase if EFILive was Australian based thanks to the company killing taxes we have here in Australia. Still, someone has to fund the hoards of people who make a living off not working, but, that's socialism for you.
    If you want to talk about why Australia pays more for things in retail, pretty simple really, compare the costs of employment of one staff member here vs the US. Out here a person working on minimum wage ($590 per week) still wants to buy the latest 60" 3D TV for Christmas and the unions agree they have that right as well as all the workcover, medical expenses the employer must pay, that cost has to be passed on to someone.
    Back to EFILive, I can't think of many products that have remained at the same price for over 5 or 6 years like our licenses have, and if and increase of $25 is pushing you towards the verge of not making it viable to tune, you aren't charging enough to begin with.
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    What about NZD vs AUD

    The thing about the rocker arms really tripped me out, Why would someone pay more for their own
    country's products ??

    -Justin

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    Default Re: Why the change in price?

    Why is this thread still open?
    Inflation happens.

    The down side of this is the inferior products are cheaper and sell more units.

    Ask why would someone spends thousands of dollars on engine modifications and use the cheap stuff
    to email tech support for segment swaps, pay extra for COS, no BBL/BBX or serial connection, fewer tables ect.

    You get what you pay for and FWIW
    I paid $825 (us) for my V2 & LC-1 way back in November 2006.
    512k RoadRunner Firmware 12.14R
    FlashScan V2 Bootblock V2.07.04 Firmware V2.07.22 EFILive V7.5.7 (Build 191) V8.2.1 (Build 181)
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    Quote Originally Posted by L31Sleeper View Post
    What about NZD vs AUD
    If I fully understood the currency markets I'd be a stock broker, not a computer programmer. If it was as simple to buy and sell in three currency's to make a profit, everyone would be a millionaire.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    Why is this thread still open?
    Because apparently a price rise after 6 years is evil and we should be burned at the stake for it. $25, c'mon. I've spoken to numerous shops who have sunk $25K+ in to HPT, and they still keep paying for new models every year, I don't think it's even possible to spend $25K on EFILive.

    Macca, compare the price of one license for GM SD tuning on EFILive vs HPT, $123 AUD for EFILive, $236 AUD for HPT, please explain how we are now so expensive with our $25 price rise? It's almost 50% cheaper.
    By the way, VCM Suite AU charge $925 for the 'pro' package, same thing in the US is $649USD (about $639AUD). That is why we moved to be based on ONE currency for pricing worldwide, it removes that problem. The issue we ran in to was the massive drop in value of the US dollar.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    Ask why would someone spends thousands of dollars on engine modifications and use the cheap stuff
    That comment reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy from one of the aftermarket ECU companies, he said he's never figured out why professional race teams moan about pricing on an ECU setup that will last for years without costing a cent, is the life blood of the car, yet they will happily burn through thousands of dollars worth of tyres any time the car is run around the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMPX View Post
    Because apparently a price rise after 6 years is evil and we should be burned at the stake for it.
    That is a little harsh, I bought 3 the day before the increase and 4 a week later..........didn't bat an eyelash.

    -Justin

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