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    Default Silver Bullet Tuning makes 625hp smoke free.

    Here is a graph from a customers truck last night on our DynoJet dyno.

    Customers current set up is as follows.

    2006 Mega auto
    St. Joseph Diesel 50hp nozzles
    Air Dog 150
    Stock Cp3 with Arson III
    Hamilton 181/210 cam with springs
    Borg-Warner S363
    Left Coast Diesel/ATO built transmission

    Customer was previously running a Garrett Stg 3 turbo with a popular box tuner as programming. Customer had complaints of excessive EGT's, smoke, and rattle.
    Horsepower best with that setup was a 1600*EGT 575hp.

    Customer contacted me about EFI Live tuning, at that time I was still in the beginning stages of tuning and still feeling the process out. Customer (Kevin) decided that he would like to be part of my testing process and was ready to begin.

    We started our tuning endevour with his Garrett still on and functioning. I began with making the truck clean and smooth to drive. Once driving characteristics were set up correctly we looked for more SOP power. We were able to squeeze a small amount of SOP power from that set-up, but upon myself getting in the vehicle and driving it. I determined that the poor little Garrett could not safely support the fueling.

    Kevin decided to make a turbo swap and shoot for 600hp smoke free. We settled on the BW S363 for its quick spooling and LDP 68mm exhaust wheel and the compressor map flowing enough air to SAFELY support 600hp.

    Kevin has had the BW on for approx 1 week and was thrilled with the added power and pulling this turbo presented over the Garrett. EGT's were 1500* but now by 110mph and not the 80mph with the Garrett.

    Kevin and I decided that it was time to put it on the rollers and see what we could squeeze from his set-up. Remember the goal when this all started was a "Clean 600hp".

    Loaded the truck on the dyno, first pull out of the gate was 602hp. After studying logs I was able to massage another 20hp from the set-up until we had reached the fueling limits of the Cp3. We were able to hold a 3100uS PW but a bump to 3300uS proved to be too much. Once a duration limit had been found I upped the timing 3* to see if we were saturated as well. Truck picked up 4hp with 3* of timing but carried power out slightly better. Lastly I tried to add some pressure (mind you I work only within stock pressure unless deemed necessary) and unfortunatly like with adding more duration, adding pressure proved to be a loss as well. I was commanding 180Mpa at 2400rpm@140mm3 and the pump was only able to achieve 163Mpa.

    So after 8 or so runs we went from a 602 clean tune to a 625hp clean tune that was maximizing every aspect of the air/fueling system. Smoke at WOT is a light gray haze.

    Blue line is beginning timing
    Green is 3* added.

    You can see from 105mph to 115mph that the 3* made the power hold on longer but did nothing for peak power.

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    Les Szmidt
    2007 5.9 Dodge Ram
    2014 Ram 3500 Aisin tuning Emissions Equipped
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    I've never seen mph used as a beneficial tuning axis. With RPM we know where to adjust what. Is there a reason you used mph? I'd love to know some aspect I'm missing to help my tune half this well. Great job man!
    EFI Live, Maxxed Out auto trans, Edge TC, FASS, 35's, 4" lift, E.D. 62/68/12, 70 hp tips.

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    Yes..I'm not a fan of no RPM, but out optical sensor isint working at the moment. So I log VVS and RPM in the scantool and compare it to the MPH logged on the dyno. I can compare mph in the scantool and the dyno, look at rpm at that speed and make adjustments that way.
    Les Szmidt
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    Darn. I was hoping I had found some new way that I'd been missing to view the data.
    EFI Live, Maxxed Out auto trans, Edge TC, FASS, 35's, 4" lift, E.D. 62/68/12, 70 hp tips.

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    Great job Les! I guess this is what I was standing-by for...
    06 5.9L, EFILive / Silver Bullet Tuning
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    Quote Originally Posted by FUBAR View Post
    Great job Les! I guess this is what I was standing-by for...
    Was I supposed to send you something??? Sorry if I was....
    Les Szmidt
    2007 5.9 Dodge Ram
    2014 Ram 3500 Aisin tuning Emissions Equipped
    EFI Live Cummins BETA Tester
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    Nice! Bet that's afun ride on the street, especially when you don't have to cloud out every intersection anymore!
    06 CC DRW, DTT, EFI Live.

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    Customer does like blowing the tires off first and second gear and ONLY have tire smoke behind him!!!
    Les Szmidt
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    Question: will it still fuel hard enough down low that he can stop people from tailgating?
    Yes, that's in the plan for my tune.
    EFI Live, Maxxed Out auto trans, Edge TC, FASS, 35's, 4" lift, E.D. 62/68/12, 70 hp tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamRRT View Post
    Question: will it still fuel hard enough down low that he can stop people from tailgating?
    Yes, that's in the plan for my tune.
    Nope...smoke free was his goal. That's smoke free all the time.
    Les Szmidt
    2007 5.9 Dodge Ram
    2014 Ram 3500 Aisin tuning Emissions Equipped
    EFI Live Cummins BETA Tester
    Silver Bullet Tuning
    silverbullettuning@gmail.com
    www.youtube.com/ljszmidt
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