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    Default First time calc.vet attempt, I have issues

    I followed the tutorial but something is wrong.

    My map for VE only filled in the column labeled "15.2". I think it is setup wrong. Columns range 2.2-15.2 and rows range 400rpm-8000rpm.

    My tune file VE table is setup to read RPM vs Map PSI which I think could be the problem. Any other ideas and how to fix it?
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    71 Chevelle, LS1/4l60e, EPS 230/238 113+2, hand ported 799s, ported Fast 90/90, Doug's headers, 3.42 12 bolt

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    Can you post a screen shot (but first, on the map properties, under each of the Data, Row, Col tabs, checkmark Show Units).

    Are you doing Calc.VET (using SELBEN) or are you using WO2BEN to map the VE table...?


    For example, this is what I see from your log file:

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    Did you do this (in the scantool):
    - on PIDs tab, rightclick on MAP and select Metric;
    - on your map, on the map properties Data tab, select the kPa version of MAP (checkmark Names to make it easier).
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    This is what I've got. I keep changing things and nothing in the cells ever changes. Frustrating.

    I originally had calc.vet instead of the WO2BEN, changing it didn't seem to make a difference.

    71 Chevelle, LS1/4l60e, EPS 230/238 113+2, hand ported 799s, ported Fast 90/90, Doug's headers, 3.42 12 bolt

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    In the tunetool, goto the B0101 VE table and rightclick in the upper left empty tile, select Copy With Labels;

    Goto scantool, goto map, on each of Col and Row tabs, click Paste Labels, and save map.

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    Ok, for anyone reading along, the problem was this:

    the tunetool was displaying B0101's MAP axis in psi... to fix this we went go Edit->Configure Display Units and set B0101 to Metric;

    then we did-copy-with-labels on B0101;

    then in the scantool, in the map properties, on the Columns tab, we did Paste Labels... the map now looks like the VE table.

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    Also remember to:
    - in tunetool options, set the commanded fuel to EQ units, and VE units to g*K/kPa.
    - in scantool, on PIDs tab, rightclick on MAP and set to Metric (this allows the scantool->tunetool cursor linking to work properly).
    - in scantool, on Maps tab, when ready to apply a map, remember to apply the filter (ignores transient data).

    Read the filter conditions carefully, they should make sense.

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    Thank you again Joe for taking the time to speak with me on the phone and work through this. I really appreciate it and you were very helpful.
    71 Chevelle, LS1/4l60e, EPS 230/238 113+2, hand ported 799s, ported Fast 90/90, Doug's headers, 3.42 12 bolt

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    We did a CALC.VET map paste into Thunder's VE table, it looked good...

    it had two small peaks with no cell hits around them, so the surround area can be smoothed up to the peaks;

    it also had a hole in the low area, so either (depending on which cells were hit) the surrounding area can be pushed down (to be level with the hole) or the hole brought up, or half-and-half;

    i.e. you have to guestimate the un-hit cells based on the surrounding hit cells;

    go File->Save As and notice a number is appended to the filename, use this to keep track of your edited files;

    when you flash and log, you will see if your guestimates were good or not.

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    Remember, the Calc.VET tutorial does this:
    - corrects the B5001 MAF table using the pid SELBEN (which you paste-multiply);
    - calculates the B0101 VE table using the pid VET (which you paste);

    use the with-labels variant for any pastes into any table.

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