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    Default AutoVE tuning with turbo

    Please let me know if all of this sounds like a good starting point, if not please let me know what to change.

    Timing, i am going to set it to 11* from .60 and up and from 2400rpms and up. Should i start at a lower rpm or even a lower cylinder air number?

    Commaned Fuel when in Open Loop B3605 table, Should i leave it at 14.629 and 12.803? or should i move the 12.803 to something like 11.5 ?

    Please advise and if there is anything else i should do because i really dont want any problems.

    Its a STS turbo T67 and stock car

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    i just noticed this forum is for 2 and 3 bar, i dont have that.

    maybe move thread to general?

    thanks

    98' White TA A4 TSP 231/237 PP Stage II 59cc heads
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    My Trans Ams
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    I haven't done it myself but will be going down this avenue soon. I'd suggest you may want to try starting at 11.5 WOT AFR to be safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsttry
    I haven't done it myself but will be going down this avenue soon. I'd suggest you may want to try starting at 11.5 WOT AFR to be safer.
    I plan on going for 11.5 WOT, but what about AutoVE. while doing AutoVE do i still shoot for 12.8 at the higher maps?

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    I'd shoot lower. 12.8 is pretty high for higher boosts IMO.
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    Mike, autoVE isn't going to work above 105kpa without a boost VE table. Running a 1bar still works but you'll be using PE to fuel vs. the VE table. Its not the smoothest way to do it but it can work.

    FWIW you can make the stock OS work with a 2bar map. Search and you should find some info on here. My setup ran nicely with a 2bar map and a tweaked VE table. But I'd make life easier on yourself and find a way to get the Commercial upgrade. The Custom Operating Systems are fantastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by WicketMike
    Please let me know if all of this sounds like a good starting point, if not please let me know what to change.

    Timing, i am going to set it to 11* from .60 and up and from 2400rpms and up. Should i start at a lower rpm or even a lower cylinder air number?

    Commaned Fuel when in Open Loop B3605 table, Should i leave it at 14.629 and 12.803? or should i move the 12.803 to something like 11.5 ?

    Please advise and if there is anything else i should do because i really dont want any problems.

    Its a STS turbo T67 and stock car
    If you dont have a commerical license find someone near you that has and get them to flash in a custom operating system , then you have full control of the whole tuning process and can use the auto VE to do both the VE table and the boost VE table , just make sure initially you start off with a rich VE table and come down rather than running it lean , also keep timing low at high loads - approx 10 deg to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delco
    If you dont have a commerical license find someone near you that has and get them to flash in a custom operating system , then you have full control of the whole tuning process and can use the auto VE to do both the VE table and the boost VE table , just make sure initially you start off with a rich VE table and come down rather than running it lean , also keep timing low at high loads - approx 10 deg to start with.
    I was told that a custom OS wont work on a 98. ??

    Mike

    98' White TA A4 TSP 231/237 PP Stage II 59cc heads
    401rwhp (unlocked) 1.594 60'-11.60 e.t.-116.98 mph
    ---------
    98' Sport Gold Metallic TA M6 - 13.39 e.t. Bone Stock
    My Trans Ams
    ---------
    2006 Chevy Monte Carlo SS 5.3L LS4 (wifes car) stock (for now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN C5
    Mike, autoVE isn't going to work above 105kpa without a boost VE table. Running a 1bar still works but you'll be using PE to fuel vs. the VE table. Its not the smoothest way to do it but it can work.

    FWIW you can make the stock OS work with a 2bar map. Search and you should find some info on here. My setup ran nicely with a 2bar map and a tweaked VE table. But I'd make life easier on yourself and find a way to get the Commercial upgrade. The Custom Operating Systems are fantastic


    ive searched and i havent been able to find any help with making a 2bar map work. everybody says to talk to Rick at Synergy and i did, but he sounded like he wants me to drive up there, its a 7hour drive :-(

    98' White TA A4 TSP 231/237 PP Stage II 59cc heads
    401rwhp (unlocked) 1.594 60'-11.60 e.t.-116.98 mph
    ---------
    98' Sport Gold Metallic TA M6 - 13.39 e.t. Bone Stock
    My Trans Ams
    ---------
    2006 Chevy Monte Carlo SS 5.3L LS4 (wifes car) stock (for now)

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    Sorry , didnt notice you had a 98.

    Your next option is to fit a 2 bar map sensor and halve your scaling resolution , can be done and it works fine just a fair bit more work

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