Originally Posted by
DURAtotheMAX
After talking with a couple people in Allison software, the threshold is somewhere around 650rpm. If turbine vs. input speed (converter slip) is over ~650rpm, there is some all-overriding table in the software that says "F you" and prohibits converter lockup until slip drops below there.
So we know for a fact it exists, its just that EFILive has not found it/mapped it out. I doubt they are going to re-visit Allison stuff again, which is why I went ahead and designed/build the Allison lockup controllers; to override the TCM and force lockup to happen, even if the software is inhibiting it.
The other big table that I wish EFILive had for the 5-speeds was the table that forces converter unlock for a second during a WOT downshift/kickdown. And whats strange is 04-05 LLY TCM OS's DO NOT unlock the converter during a WOT downshift. So when you're cruising on the highway in 5th, and stomp on it to pass someone, the trans does a 5-4 downshift and keeps the converter locked all the way through it. (which is good)
On the 01-03 TCM OS's, the converter unlocks, trans does the downshift, and then the TCM [is supposed to] relocks the converter once the shift is complete. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT is that once you unlock the converter and downshift at WOT under big power, the converter slip RPM immediately zings above 650rpm and you get into "limbo" there where the converter lockup is inhibited again. So when you're on the highway, you stomp on it, downshift/unlock, and the truck just sits there SCREAMING away in 4th gear and you dont actually accelerate at all (because the converter isnt locked)...then 5 seconds later, converter "catches up", TCM relocks it, THEN you start accelerating, then it shifts back into 5th gear. Its freaking obnoxious, and dare I say dangerous, because you go to pass someone, and the truck just makes a lot of noise, but you cant actually pass the person because the stupid TCM unlocks the TC and then just sits there saying "F you" and wont relock (thus not allowing the truck to actually accelerate and shift back into 5th).
And, go figure, the 2004-2005 TCM OS is the one that shifts like crap under big power, and the 2001-2002 TCM OS's work perfectly under big power. So you cant have your cake and eat it. You either have a TCM that lets you do WOT kickdown's/downshifts and actually pass people right away, but shifts like crap otherwise.......or you have a TCM that shifts awesome/predictably, but effectively doesnt allow you to ever do any WOT downshift/passing.
Ben