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Thread: TLIQ vs BT vs TLIQ or some such thing

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    LB72004,

    I see that you posted this spreadsheet back in February and then had a discussion on another thread with another tuner in August regarding these 3 tables, TBIQ, Base Torque, and TLIQ in which at the last post you acted like you had an 'ah-hah' moment. Did you get it all figured out? I still haven't had a chance to look into it further but I definitely have not had the 'ah-ha' moment yet.

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    in terms of getting the excel sheet to work automatically, no.

    attached is the current sheet that i use for LB7s. to open it change the extension to "xlsx". it is the newer 2007+ excel file type.

    it shows the difference in MM3 between the the throttle base and the TLIQ. past in your tables into the "Math" tab and see what the difference is. the other tabs show the full information between the cells not shown in the tune, dont make any changes here. in the "Math" tab, adjust the base torque and torque limit injection quantity and if you want the throttle base till the green set of cells are as close to "0: as possible. when done past them back into the tune.

    i haven't proved that this is the correct way to tune the TLIQ or that it is safe but it has worked on two trucks so far. feel free to test it out, and please let us know the results
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    Resurrecting an old thread. But thought It was kinda interesting. Looked at the math and found an error. In the TBIQ tab and Base Tq tab, you divided by 9 when you should have been dividing by 10, Just something to help you out. I knew you posted the LLY and LB7 ones somewhere else as I downloaded them a LONG time ago. Couldn't find that post again but did find it here.

    You made the same error in the LLY spread sheet as well.

    Good work tho.
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    good catch. here is the corrected files
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    2008 Chevrolet 3500HD DRW LTZ
    285/75/17 Nitto Dura Grapplers, 4.56 gears, Front and rear ARB lockers, Efi Live tuning by me, Raptor 160 LP, Cognito 4-6 NTB Lift, 4" Exhaust, Built Trans by Mike L.

    Sold - 2004 LB7 Duramax, EFI Live with DSP5 Tune
    stage 4 SC transmission, 265/70/16 tires

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    update. here is my latest calculator that does all the calculations for you once you plug in the relevant dataLB7 & LLY Defuel Calculation experiment.zip
    2008 Chevrolet 3500HD DRW LTZ
    285/75/17 Nitto Dura Grapplers, 4.56 gears, Front and rear ARB lockers, Efi Live tuning by me, Raptor 160 LP, Cognito 4-6 NTB Lift, 4" Exhaust, Built Trans by Mike L.

    Sold - 2004 LB7 Duramax, EFI Live with DSP5 Tune
    stage 4 SC transmission, 265/70/16 tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB72004 View Post
    update. here is my latest calculator that does all the calculations for you once you plug in the relevant dataLB7 & LLY Defuel Calculation experiment.zip
    Hey, just wondering if you have ever looked into doing something similar with LBZ/LMM?

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    how do you mean? only the LB7 and LLY uses that torque strategy. the later models don't even have those tables.
    2008 Chevrolet 3500HD DRW LTZ
    285/75/17 Nitto Dura Grapplers, 4.56 gears, Front and rear ARB lockers, Efi Live tuning by me, Raptor 160 LP, Cognito 4-6 NTB Lift, 4" Exhaust, Built Trans by Mike L.

    Sold - 2004 LB7 Duramax, EFI Live with DSP5 Tune
    stage 4 SC transmission, 265/70/16 tires

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    I realise that. I was just wondering if a similar strategy had could be used.

    I found a way to reduce the affect of torque reductions in the LMM/LBZ through trial and error anyway so no longer needed. I have both LMM/LBZs shifting beautifully now with torque reductions still enabled

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB72004 View Post
    update. here is my latest calculator that does all the calculations for you once you plug in the relevant dataLB7 & LLY Defuel Calculation experiment.zip
    Pretty badass. Im guessing the torque values are in NM? And from previous posts the best way to start is put TBIQ in the TLIQ table and work from that? It seems like the torque table from stock only gets fudged with when your manually changing pulsewitdh. I have not been brave enough to set 10 in the 10 percent and 20 in the 20 row and so on up in the throttle table and make it linear to get a verification on delivered torque.

    Chris

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    I made it with values in lb/ft but math is math so it might work with NM but haven't tried it
    2008 Chevrolet 3500HD DRW LTZ
    285/75/17 Nitto Dura Grapplers, 4.56 gears, Front and rear ARB lockers, Efi Live tuning by me, Raptor 160 LP, Cognito 4-6 NTB Lift, 4" Exhaust, Built Trans by Mike L.

    Sold - 2004 LB7 Duramax, EFI Live with DSP5 Tune
    stage 4 SC transmission, 265/70/16 tires

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