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    Default Just upgraded to V2, having issues.

    I just upgraded my V1 to V2. I can log data and check DTC's but can't tune. The car I am trying to tune has been tuned with HPT Pro and is saying it is locked. I tried the Alt Keys and that isn't working. I don't have anymore of my cars here to try the V2 on them to see if it is working. When I did the upgrade I don't remember it switching screens on the controller box like the tutorial says it will. But everything else was correct and it says it was successfully updated when I tried again. Did I mess it up? I am trying to use my old desk top V1 Scan Icon and Tune Icons so I can use my old data. Do I have to use my new Desk top Icons. The new windows don't make any sense to me. I opened the tune one and it has nothing in it and the Scan one says it hasn't been released yet. If I do have to use them, how do I transfer all of my old data to them?

    The other issue I am having is using the correct pids for 05' and up. The pids I have been using for years in V1 don't all work on the V2. Some are very important. I can't log:

    Air Flow Grams/Cyl (GM.CYLAIR_DMA)
    Commanded Air Fuel Ratio (GM.AFR)
    Manifold Vacuum (GM.MANVAC)
    Mass Ari Flow Raw Frequency (SAE.MAFFREQ)

    There are some more but those are the critical ones I need. What are the equivalent on the 05' and up cars?

    Thanks in advance.
    02 Z06, 573/530rw N/A 416, 10.21@136.12.

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    Hello Pray,

    What controller are you trying to log ? LS1-B PCMs use different PIDs than the newer E38 / E67 ECMs. Perhaps connect to a known controller (i.e. one you are certain is not locked, or you have tuned previously), then validate the PIDs.


    Regards,
    Taz

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    I am not 100% sure but I believe in some situations the HPT software automatically locks the controller. You will probably need to get it unlocked by the person and/or HPT software that did the tune.

    The V8 PIDs have slightly different names, the list of changes is shown below.
    Also, All PIDs that in V7 ended with _DMA that are not on this list now end with just _M in V8.

    There is an option in the V7 software to "Edit->Copy PIDs for export to V8". So you can highlight all the PIDs in a V7 PID list and select "Edit->Copy PIDs for export to V8".
    Than go into the V8 software and right click the green section in the BBL setup window and select Paste. That will perform the PID name conversions automatically for you.
    Note: that process does not support calculated PID names.

    Code:
    #BBL Name      V7 name
    #------------- ----------------
    SAE            SAE
    WO2AS11        WO2S11_B
    WO2AS12        WO2S12_B
    WO2AS13        WO2S13_B
    WO2AS14        WO2S14_B
    WO2AS21        WO2S21_B
    WO2AS22        WO2S22_B
    WO2AS23        WO2S23_B
    WO2AS24        WO2S24_B
    EQ_RAT         LAMBDA
    
    GM             GM
    ESTDIAG        STATE14
    ETCTAC1        STATE15
    ETCTAC2        STATE16
    ETST           ETCS
    MAF_GM         MAF
    MAPS           MAP
    ACHPRS         ACP
    GENFDC         ALT-F
    TP_A           TP
    FRPS           FPS
    BBVPS          BBS
    DESTQ          DESTRQ
    EOP            EOPS
    EGRCMD         EGRCOM
    TRACTRQ        ACTTRQ
    TTQRET         SEMRET
    BARO_B         BARO
    EOLIFE         EOL
    RUNTIME        RUN_TIME
    MAFSD          DYNAIR_LS2
    EGRCLOSE       EGRPINTLE
    IDLERPM        IDLRPM
    STFTAVG1       SHRTFTAVG1
    LTFTAVG1       LONGFTAVG1
    STFTAVG2       SHRTFTAVG2
    MFFAIL1        MFFAIL
    MFPASS1        MFPASS
    LTFTAVG2       LONGFTAVG2
    FTV            FTP
    CASE           CASEERR
    CURRCYL        CKREFCYL
    FANDC          FANPWMDC
    GENLDC         GENL_DC
    IGN1CC         IGNCOIL1
    IGN2CC         IGNCOIL2
    IGN3CC         IGNCOIL3
    IGN4CC         IGNCOIL4
    IGN5CC         IGNCOIL5
    IGN6CC         IGNCOIL6
    IGN7CC         IGNCOIL7
    IGN8CC         IGNCOIL8
    INJ1CC         INJECTOR1
    INJ2CC         INJECTOR2
    INJ3CC         INJECTOR3
    INJ4CC         INJECTOR4
    INJ5CC         INJECTOR5
    INJ6CC         INJECTOR6
    INJ7CC         INJECTOR7
    INJ8CC         INJECTOR8
    O2H11DC        O2HTRDCB1S1
    O2H21DC        O2HTRDCB2S1
    VSFPDC         FPVSPDDC
    EOT            EOILTS
    FANSPD_DES     FANSPD_ACT
    TSTATE33       TSTATE02
    TSTATE34       TSTATE03
    TSTATE35       TSTATE04
    TSTATE36       TSTATE05
    TSTATE37       TSTATE06
    TSTATE39       TSTATE07
    TSTATE40       TSTATE08
    TSTATE41       TSTATE09
    TSTATE42       TSTATE10
    TSTATE45       TSTATE12
    TSTATE03       TSTATE13
    TSTATE04       TSTATE14
    TSTATE05       TSTATE15
    TSTATE06       TSTATE16
    TSTATE07       TSTATE17
    TSTATE16       TSTATE18
    
    TSTATE02       TSTATE52
    TSTATE08       TSTATE58
    TSTATE09       TSTATE59
    TSTATE10       TSTATE60
    TSTATE11       TSTATE61
    TSTATE14       TSTATE64
    TSTATE15       TSTATE65
    TSTATE17       TSTATE67
    TSTATE19       TSTATE69
    
    TCMPSLIP       TCSLIP
    
    FUEL_MAIN_M    FUELQ_MAIN_DMA
    FUEL_THR_M     FUELQ_THR_DMA
    DSP5_VOLT_M    DSP5_VOLTS_DMA
    
    SCALCORVE_M    SCALEDCORVE_DMA
    SCALUNCVE_M    SCALEDUNVE_DMA
    
    TRQCALC_M      TORQUECALC_DMA
    TRQRED_M       TORQUERED_DMA
    
    IAC_SD_M       IAC_STD_DMA     
    IAC_SPN_M      IAC_STPN_DMA    
    IAC_SDAC_M     IAC_STDAC_DMA   
    IAC_SPNAC_M    IAC_STPNAC_DMA  
    IAC_LD_M       IAC_LTD_DMA     
    IAC_LPN_M      IAC_LTPN_DMA    
    IAC_LPNAC_M    IAC_LTDAC_DMA   
    IAC_LDAC_M     IAC_LTPNAC_DMA  
    IAC_FRIC_M     IAC_FRICTION_DMA

    Before asking for help, please read this.

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    Thanks guys. I was trying to tune my buddy's 05'. He bought me the upgrade to do his car and now I can't. I am up at his place 2 hours from my house where my other cars are. I will see if it works when I get home tomorrow. I am just leaving him hanging. So I can't use my old V1 Icons to tune and log with? I am going to have to explore the two new deals.
    02 Z06, 573/530rw N/A 416, 10.21@136.12.

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    The copy export isn't working on my V7. Is there an upgrade I need?
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    PRAY,

    What build version are your V7 and V8 at...?

    What firmware version is your V2 at...?

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    I tried to use the CD that came with it to do the install but nothing on it worked. I went out to the web site and down loaded the latest and greatest off of here. I will double check exactly which ones I down loaded. The other strange thing to me what there were two different liscence registration cards in the box. One was for Scan only and the other was Scan&Tune. I regestered the Scan&Tune version.
    02 Z06, 573/530rw N/A 416, 10.21@136.12.

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    I installed the EFILive V7.5.7 Build 180 and EFILive V8.2.1 Build 170. Where do I find out what Firmwhare I installed? I don't see it on the download page.
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    Hello Pray,

    Now that you have a V2 - you should also have desktop icons for V7.5 Tune Tool, V7.5 ScanTool, V8 Scan and Tune, and EFILive Explorer. When you downloaded build 180 / 170 the Bootblock (2.07.03) and Firmware (2.07.22) would have also downloaded - and will need to be programmed to the V2.

    Connect your V2 to your laptop (or whatever computer you are using). Once the V2 has fully booted, open the EFILive Explorer utility. You should see an "F12:Firmware" tab - select this and your Bootblock / Firmware information will be displayed. You may also get a prompt telling you the V2 requires programming.

    If the V2 has been programmed with the correct Bootblock / Firmware, you will then need to format the Config Files.

    After this close EFILive Explorer, then open V8 Scan & Tune - select "F5: BBX". You will see F2: Scan and F3: Tune sub-menus. In Scan you need to program the PIDs. In Tune you need to program the controllers.

    Hopefully some of this helps ...


    Regards,
    Taz

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    In EFILive Explorer (EE) when you view what firmware version your V2 has, the date is important.

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