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    Default Can't find some pids for VET tuning

    I was selecting pids and when I got to the selection "tuning" section of pids its not in the drop down menu and manually looking for the pids such as CALC.LTFTBEN I cant find them. I copied the Calc pids text file over to the configuration folder (also changed to match my analog WB) as I thought I should have. was there more to it than just moving it into the folder?

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    humm tried again and now they are there. however I dont think I understand what to copy in for the narrow band
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    Can you post your calc_pids.txt file.


    Quote Originally Posted by myws6formula View Post
    ... however I dont think I understand what to copy in for the narrow band
    Copy to where (can you give me more context)...?

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    calc_pids.txt


    under CLC-00-110 I pasted {GM.EQIVRATIO}*({CALC.AFR_LC11}/14.7) over the original formula



    then I changed the description to "BEN from Analog WB" thinking that was the reason but that didn't work.

    actually after the final change I got an error opening the scan tool up so I reverted back.

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    Ok, I fixed up your calc_pids.txt (the closing quote " on CLC-00-110 had fallen onto the next line), see attached, please try this.
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    Thank you ! that did the trick.

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    I haven't had a chance to do any logs yet but I was wondering a couple things... 1st do I have to disable the MAF or MAP when logging?

    I thought the point of this was that you didn't have to do anything other than log and take the average from each map when done with a 45-60 min log

    2nd question is since I have a Road Runner can I set it up for this for real time tuning? it would seem I could only run one map at a time though
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    With Calc.VET you can leave the VE enabled because the transient filter throws away any contribution from the VE


    [ Calc.VET corrects the MAF, this requires all the airmass to come from the MAF only;
    MAF is used exclusively above 4000 rpm and during steady state below 4000 rpm;
    so when you apply the transient filter it removes transient data (where the VE was used), so only the MAF data remains ]

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    Yes, you could use the RoadRunner to correct the MAF using Calc.VET... I haven't done this yet, you would have to study the RoadRunner subforum;

    the calculated VE table could be applied from a log taken later after the MAF was corrected...

    ( or you could disable the MAF and use the RoadRunner to correct the VE )

    if you're going to correct the MAF using Calc.VET with the RoadRunner, then I would recommend disabling the VE first (set B0120 to zero).

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    ok thanks.

    would almost seem as thought its faster / simple not to use the road runner. unless you could open both the maf and ve table at the same time.
    Last edited by myws6formula; May 10th, 2012 at 01:41 PM.

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