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    Default Wideband Log Help : Clarity Needed

    Just want to be clear on this and please correct me if I am wrong.

    I have 2003 S10 with the LS1b PCM (I thnk thats what u refer it to) or 1MB
    I have a 30-4100 AEM Wideband gauge setup
    I have EFILive V1

    I am using my 0-5v white wire from my AEM WB to the EXT-AD1 side orange plug input of the V1.
    I am understood that I use the PLX PIDs which are the same as AEM needs.

    Anytime I want to do a log, I want to always utilize the WBO2? Right?
    I need to keep my PIDs under 24, so I should start my PID list to include the ones listed below at all cost and the rest I need as well for whatever type of log I am conducting?

    I have to log my AEM using the PLX PIDs. The 3 minimum PIDs to do so are :
    EXT.AD1 (calls EFILive to record that external channel)
    CALC.AFR_PLX1 (since AEM uses those)
    CALC.BEN_PLX1 (since AEM uses those) - I dont understand what a base effec numerator is

    The above I basically gathered from the Auto VE Tuning tutorial.

    But I was also prior told I needed to use in my logs:
    EXT.AD1 (same as above)
    CALC.AFR_PLX1 (same as above)
    CALC.W02BEN (different as above) Is this the same as the BEN.PLX? Different and if so why?
    GM.EqivRatio (added PID and I dont understand it either.

    When do I use the top 3? For AutoVE only and the bottom 4 for all other logs/tuneing?

    Or am I missing the noat all together somehow? Thx in advance for schooling me, Michel

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    p.s. I would like to do a simple log that has the basic PIDs needed WITH the added WB PIDs needed to be used/saved for when I am looking at my basic engine performance to diagnose, see if the WB is logging correctly,, etc.

    I want a seperate (if needed) PID list that I need when I am soley doing a MAF tune/log and also a VE tune and log.

    I just want to have my ducks in a row for when I dig into those

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    External pids use 0 channels and you can add a calc_pid to a log afterwards.

    The EFILive predefined AFR pids are for the manufacturers stoic value.
    If the AFR value for EQ 1.00 is close then they can be used but a calac_pid should be made. IMO

    ({GM.EQUIVRATIO} * Lambda) & (EQ /{GM.EQUIVRATIO}) = fail-proof BEN
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    External pids use 0 channels and you can add a calc_pid to a log afterwards.
    Not sure I understand totally. Joecar sent me a calc_pid to use. Not sure if I added it in my logs or not.
    I know the PIDs I have listed 'show up' on my list in ScanTool and I slect them from the list. But I thoght at the bottom of ScanTool PID tab it shows them adding up when selected

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    EXT pids and CALC pids cost zero channels (even tho EXT pids might show how many channels they occupy)...

    so in your calculation of pid channel count, any contribution from EXT pids can be ignored.

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    A BEN calc pid using EQIVRATIO (if your PCM has this pid) is better than AFR for various reasons (including what fuel you're running).

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    Ok so I should always use EQUIVRATIO (im pretty sure its a PID on my PCM) and use it with:?

    A. EXT.AD1 (external channel)
    CALC.AFR_PLX1 (since AEM uses those)
    CALC.BEN_PLX1 (since AEM uses those)

    B. EXT.AD1 (same as above)
    CALC.AFR_PLX1 (same as above)
    CALC.W02BEN

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    Post your calc_pids.txt file here.

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    This is what I have under My Doc/EFILive/7.5/User Confog
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Ok, your correction pid is CALC.WO2BEN

    this pid requires the following pids to be selected: GM.EQIVRATIO , CALC.AFR_PLX1 , EXT.AD1... i.e. item B in post #1 above.

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