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    Default Reading Lambda on LM-2 when Stoichiometric is 14.2 in tune

    I'm working on getting myself educated to start using my LM-2 and I know my {B3671} Stoichiometric AFR is set at 14.2 (Nothing but +/- E10 here)

    The LM-2 is factory set to show Stoich of 14.7 and if I want to read Stoich in my setup I would need to change the LM-2 to other Volt readings from what I gather. Is reading Lambda the same way? or when you read lambda it does not matter?

    In searching there is a ton on information on the LC1, but I cant seem to find the correct correlation to the LM-2

    Thanks in advance,

    John-

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    Yes, correct, Lambda is the same regardless of fuel used.

    To see Lambda in the scantool, the pid CALC.AFR_LM11 has to be divided by 14.7 (which is the stoich AFR value setup in the LM-1).

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    Joe,

    Ok, so this file

    "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"


    Should be changed to read: "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{14.7}" or "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}/{14.7}" ???

    and then copied an inserted into the calc_pids.txt file??

    From the old tutorial I'm not to modify the sae file, just obtain the pid information from there correct?





    Sorry for to question - This is my first edited pid.......

    john-
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    The measured Lambda is: "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{14.7}"

    The BEN correction is: ""{GM.EQIVRATIO}*{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{14.7}"

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    "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"
    the problems with that are these:
    - LM-1 has a programmable stoich AFR which is usually (but not always) 14.7,
    - GM.AFR depends on the value of B3601 (which can be set to other than 14.7),

    this is why GM.EQIVRATIO is used (it is 1/lambda).

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    "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}/{14.7}
    That is incorrect, it would have to be this (assuming B3610 is set to 14.2 for E10):

    "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}/14.7*14.2"

    but by using GM.EQIVRATIO you can reduce that to this:

    "{GM.EQIVRATIO}*{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{14.7}"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protec View Post
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    From the old tutorial I'm not to modify the sae file, just obtain the pid information from there correct?

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    Hi John,

    DO you have FlashScan V1 or V2...?

    Do you have the serial comms (null modem) cable connecting your LM-1 to your V2...?

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    Joe,

    Very much appreciate the information.

    I'm using V2 and I made the serial cable that connects the LM-2 to the V2..... Its an LM-2...

    Let me know if you need anything else.

    Best,

    John~

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    the problems with that are these:
    - LM-1 has a programmable stoich AFR which is usually (but not always) 14.7,
    - GM.AFR depends on the value of B3601 (which can be set to other than 14.7),

    this is why GM.EQIVRATIO is used (it is 1/lambda).


    Joe,

    I don't have B3601 rather B3671 (Stoichiometric AFR) and its set to 14.20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protec View Post
    Joe,

    Very much appreciate the information.

    I'm using V2 and I made the serial cable that connects the LM-2 to the V2..... Its an LM-2...

    ...
    John,

    With the serial comms wideband input into V2, you can simply use the calc_pids.txt from the Calc.VET tutorial...

    you would use the pid CALC.WO2BEN for pure wideband tuning

    ( you would use CALC.SELBEN for mixed wideband/LTFT tuning )

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