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    For CLSD you can just enable trimming B3801 and closed loop B4205 (copy those into the new file).


    Quote Originally Posted by lstruck View Post
    High lighted are the things I think should be copied over to update my tune on the previous 1 bar tune( in red)

    So I just need confermation that the stuff below in red is what I need to change to update my 1 bar tune to the new 2bar clsd tune. Is this correct? thanks in advance.


    Comparison summary: 10:19:35 am, Wednesday Sep 26, 2012

    Calibration comparison between my tune on the new 2bar operating system.tun and SDAutoVE2b_0001(16thchange with boost good log)_000_0000.tun.
    *Values that differ by more than 0.000100% are considered different.
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    A0009 "Boost VE Table" 26.196208 "Different from cell: 0,0 to cell: 18,19 inclusive."
    A0014 "IAT VE Multiplier" 199.999980 "Different from row 0 to row 18 inclusive."
    A0008 "Open Loop ECT Commanded Fuel Multiplier" 139.160171 "Different from row 0 to row 18 inclusive."
    B0101 "Main VE Table" 14.725599 "Different from cell: 0,0 to cell: 18,19 inclusive."
    B0302 "Max RPM for Barometer update" -15.625238 "CAL: 4000 <-> ALT: 2000" <-Not sure here

    B3618 "PE Modifier Based on RPM" 0.207596 "Different from row 0 to row 18 inclusive."
    B3647 "Commanded Fuel vs RPM (Normal)" 0.224180 "Different from cell: 0,0 to cell: 16,18 inclusive."
    B3649 "Commanded Fuel vs RPM (Ethanol)" 0.224180 "Different from cell: 0,0 to cell: 16,18 inclusive."
    B3801 "Long Term Fuel Trim Correction" N/A "CAL: Enable <-> ALT: Disable"
    B4108 "STFT Idle Enable" N/A "CAL: Enable <-> ALT: Disable"
    B4205 "Closed Loop Temp Enable" 47.210766 "Different from row 0 to row 18 inclusive."
    B4307 "Desired Airflow" 3.422599 "Different from cell: 0,6 to cell: 1,10 inclusive."
    B5913 "Spark High-Octane Table" -0.230190 "Different from cell: 4,17 to cell: 4,17 inclusive."
    B5914 "Spark Low-Octane Table" -0.230190 "Different from cell: 4,17 to cell: 4,17 inclusive."
    C6001 "Engine DTC Processing Enablers" N/A "Different from row 3 to row 5 inclusive." <--not sure how this changed
    C2903 "MAF High Frequency Fail Limit" -0.025940 "CAL: 18 <-> ALT: 1"
    C2904 "MAF Low Frequency Fail 1" 5.995000 "CAL: 1 <-> ALT: 1200"
    C2907 "MAF Test Min Engine Speed" -0.781262 "CAL: 400 <-> ALT: 300"
    C5501 "MAP Rationality Test RPM High" -23.437858 "CAL: 5000 <-> ALT: 2000"
    C6301 "MAP Sensor Scaler" 7.772946 "CAL: 94.4336 <-> ALT: 193.9258"
    C6101 "ETC Predicted Airflow" 12.156863 "Different from cell: 0,0 to cell: 16,16 inclusive."
    D0901 "Part throttle 1->2 Shift Speeds" 1.426719 "Different from cell: 0,10 to cell: 2,16 inclusive."
    D0902 "Part throttle 2->3 Shift Speeds" 5.842679 "Different from cell: 0,6 to cell: 2,16 inclusive."
    D0903 "Part throttle 3->4 Shift Speeds" 13.835355 "Different from cell: 1,15 to cell: 1,16 inclusive."
    D0911 "WOT 1->2 Shift Speeds, Performance" 1.457237 "CAL: 60 <-> ALT: 66"
    D0912 "WOT 1->2 Shift Speeds, Hot" 0.801099 "CAL: 51 <-> ALT: 54"
    D0915 "WOT 2->3 Shift Speeds, Normal" -1.455711 "CAL: 129 <-> ALT: 123"
    D0917 "WOT 2->3 Shift Speeds, Hot" -0.682078 "CAL: 103 <-> ALT: 100"
    D0920 "WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Normal" 10.922408 "CAL: 215 <-> ALT: 260"
    D0921 "WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Performance" -24.060426 "CAL: 359 <-> ALT: 260"
    D0922 "WOT 3->4 Shift Speeds, Hot" -24.060426 "CAL: 359 <-> ALT: 260"
    D0914 "Manual Hold Gear, 2nd, 1->2 Shift Speeds" 1.275654 "Different from row 11 to row 16 inclusive."
    D2001 "Abuse Mode RPM Enable" 9.765923 "CAL: 6000 <-> ALT: 6800"

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    I think some portion of your VE is not filled in with current data (where it dips down)...
    on ve i couldn't get an cell above 4000 rpm under 100kpa so I just kinda scaled it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Fix these:
    how do i fix that set them to like 90% 95%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    I hope you set the cells in B3647 and B3649 to values other than stoich (EQR 1.00) during tuning...

    if you didn't, then the COS would have trimmed using STFT when running on these cells.

    Even if i had STFT and LTFT set to disabled?


    So does this mean i need to redo my ve table?

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    Yes, all the COS's will do semi-open loop (STFT trimming on stoich cells) regardless of LTFT and/or STFT being disabled...

    this means that the PCM was correcting ahead of you (so your wideband shows that no correction is required).

    Yes, you will have to redo your VE table.

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    BTW: your COS has no STFT disable.

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    they were when I logged I just changed it to try to finish it up...damn I've spent like 100 buck just on fuel for the ve tuning lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Yes, all the COS's will do semi-open loop (STFT trimming on stoich cells) regardless of LTFT and/or STFT being disabled...

    this means that the PCM was correcting ahead of you (so your wideband shows that no correction is required).

    Yes, you will have to redo your VE table.


    So can I just change all the ones in tables B3647 and B3649 to 1.01 or .99 or does it have to be like .90 or 1.10 ?

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    1.01 and 0.99 are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstruck View Post
    they were when I logged I just changed it to try to finish it up...damn I've spent like 100 buck just on fuel for the ve tuning lol..
    You should be able to get most of the useable VE table in a 20 minute drive...

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