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    Yes, correct, OL with STFT on stoich cells. Yes it does improve mpg a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smslyguy View Post
    Any idea's on the tune?
    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    I'll look at it later this morning...
    Fix the out-of-range cells:

    Quote Originally Posted by Out of Range tab
    Out of Range calibration summary: 01:33:10 pm, Wednesday Oct 10, 2012

    EFILive Custom Calibrations
    {A0002} Octane Scaler Limiter, was out of range when loaded.
    {A0009} Boost VE Table, contained one or more out of range values when loaded.
    and also A0012, A0013.

    More info:
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    When you upgrade from 12212156 to COS3 or COS5 are you doing this:
    - full flash of COS3/5,
    - cal only flash from 12212156,
    - read back from PCM and save to file,
    - edit file and fix any out-of-range cells (including A0012, A0013),
    - look thru all tables for sane values and fix the insane ones,
    - cal only flash.

    Those are important, make sure that all the Axxxx tables and B3647 contain sane values.

    OOR: make sure you get rid of the blue dogear corners.

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    B3609: set to all zero.

    B3647: this is not correct... it should slope richer toward the high map columns (not toward the low rpm rows).

    B3618: below 3200 and above 4800 could be richer.

    C6001: set the MAF DTC's to 1-Trip or to Non-Emissions (not 2-Trips).

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Fix the out-of-range cells:


    and also A0012, A0013.

    More info:
    Thanks for looking joecar. what does dogear corners, mean? I put all sane values in that was from the orginal load i did with this c.o.s.
    2001 camaro z28 ss vert with factory slp upgrades, Hooker long tubes, 3"y-pipe to a 4" muffler, ,airlid,s.s.r.a. ,t.c.bypass,descreened m.a.f. 232/234 .595,.598 +2 comp cam with ported and polished stock heads with .650 lift dual springs and a bowl grind. tuned with EFI Live. All combined to achieve 29 m.p.g. and 399 r.w.h.p. with 384 lbs of torque. sold...

    Now own a 2015 1LE camaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    B3609: set to all zero.

    B3647: this is not correct... it should slope richer toward the high map columns (not toward the low rpm rows).

    B3618: below 3200 and above 4800 could be richer.

    C6001: set the MAF DTC's to 1-Trip or to Non-Emissions (not 2-Trips).
    ya, b3647 just loaded what was from my other tune for some reason. It is corrected now. b3618 why would you want it to be richer in below 3200 and above 4800 when it's already commanding 12.8 on the upper r.p.m.s However what would you recomend for below 3200 r.p.m's?

    Also what is the main difference between on c6001 1-trip or to non-emissions vrs 2-trips??
    2001 camaro z28 ss vert with factory slp upgrades, Hooker long tubes, 3"y-pipe to a 4" muffler, ,airlid,s.s.r.a. ,t.c.bypass,descreened m.a.f. 232/234 .595,.598 +2 comp cam with ported and polished stock heads with .650 lift dual springs and a bowl grind. tuned with EFI Live. All combined to achieve 29 m.p.g. and 399 r.w.h.p. with 384 lbs of torque. sold...

    Now own a 2015 1LE camaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by smslyguy View Post
    Thanks for looking joecar. what does dogear corners, mean? I put all sane values in that was from the orginal load i did with this c.o.s.
    See the blue "dogear" corners on the cells tha are OOR...

    Did you fix the OOR cells (there's a trick to it)...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smslyguy View Post
    ya, b3647 just loaded what was from my other tune for some reason. It is corrected now. b3618 why would you want it to be richer in below 3200 and above 4800 when it's already commanding 12.8 on the upper r.p.m.s However what would you recomend for below 3200 r.p.m's?

    Also what is the main difference between on c6001 1-trip or to non-emissions vrs 2-trips??
    I think 13.1 (lower rpm) and 12.8 (upper) rpm are on the lean edge of safe... they are ok if you monitor you wideband.



    C6001: P0101,2,3 set to 2-Trips means it takes 2 trips to fail the MAF...

    i.e. on the first trip the MAF is not failed but being used (no MAF DTC present)...

    and if B5001 is not valid (yours is all zero) the PCM computes a MAF value from the VE table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    See the blue "dogear" corners on the cells tha are OOR...

    Did you fix the OOR cells (there's a trick to it)...?
    Sorry, i'm still not getting what you are meaning here? Could you explain a little better?
    2001 camaro z28 ss vert with factory slp upgrades, Hooker long tubes, 3"y-pipe to a 4" muffler, ,airlid,s.s.r.a. ,t.c.bypass,descreened m.a.f. 232/234 .595,.598 +2 comp cam with ported and polished stock heads with .650 lift dual springs and a bowl grind. tuned with EFI Live. All combined to achieve 29 m.p.g. and 399 r.w.h.p. with 384 lbs of torque. sold...

    Now own a 2015 1LE camaro

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    Another side note is at 6400 r.p.m's my fuel injector's are running at 96%. It's not very often i run it that high, but the way it skips like it's cutting off fuel from the injector's under load almost makes me think that one my injector's have failed.. My question is if an injector was bad wouldn't it not work period? This agian is just a guess i'm making.

    after adjusting A0014 (I.A.T. ve multiplier) it made no defference as my car cutting out, however it did infact rich'n the mixture down to 12.2 a.f.r.
    2001 camaro z28 ss vert with factory slp upgrades, Hooker long tubes, 3"y-pipe to a 4" muffler, ,airlid,s.s.r.a. ,t.c.bypass,descreened m.a.f. 232/234 .595,.598 +2 comp cam with ported and polished stock heads with .650 lift dual springs and a bowl grind. tuned with EFI Live. All combined to achieve 29 m.p.g. and 399 r.w.h.p. with 384 lbs of torque. sold...

    Now own a 2015 1LE camaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by smslyguy View Post
    Sorry, i'm still not getting what you are meaning here? Could you explain a little better?
    Look closely at A0012 and A0013 (for example)...

    the tunetool has colored the 4 corners of each of these cells blue (they look like dogears)...

    that means they are OOR.

    Post a screenshot of your A0000, A0001, ..., A0012, A0013.

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