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Thread: TBSS 4L60e to 4L80e T42 Swap

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    Run the factory TCM OS for the TBSS and change the pins either on the TCM side of the trans side. If you want to keep the TCC locked under 0% TPS, only works if you have an 06-07 TBSS. 08-09s dont work, Ive been working on a fix for the 08s since March and am still fighting some issues.
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    The 4L60E segment can run the 4L80E if the trans harness is modified...

    basically:
    - discard the 3-2 control solenoid signal,
    - use a relay to invert the 2-3 shift solenoid signal,
    - drive TCC PWM from TCC On/Off or from TCC PWM thru a relay gated by TCC On/Off;

    ( those changes a simple )

    If you swap in a 4L80E segment you still have to modify the trans harness (TCC PWM pin has to be moved).

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    Okay did the Relay and got everything else wired up. This is the program I am running. The truck still does not shift right but all the other issues are fixed. Does anybody else have any ideas. Apparently this swap is a pain from everything I have found but I know it can be done.

    Thanks so much
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    Do you get any DTC's...?

    Log the various TSTATExx pids, they may reveal some more context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilz28nos View Post
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    Okay did the Relay and got everything else wired up. This is the program I am running. The truck still does not shift right but all the other issues are fixed. Does anybody else have any ideas. Apparently this swap is a pain from everything I have found but I know it can be done.

    Thanks so much
    As a sanity check, explain in detail exactly what you did.



    What happens when it tries to shift...?

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    From DVT in the scantool can you command the shift solenoids on and off...?

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    Does it slam into gear when you shift from P -> D?

    Does it hang past where it should be shifting (ex shifting at 30mph vs 25)?

    Looking through that tune it appears everything is set correctly, but I havent personally done the swap so I might have missed something.
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    Wiring

    Took Pin S out of botom of Trans Harness

    Took the Wire out of PIN T and put it in PIN S

    Went to TCM and Took 2-3 Noid and ran it to a relay so when the computer is commanding it OFF it is ON



    After going back over the RELAY install I believe we have it working. It does shift 1-2-3-4. I have not been to able to fine tune it yet because of a small oil leak.

    The only other issue I am have is the Traction Control/Stablitrac Light will flash on and off randomly and affect the truck. If I turn it off I can drive it but I probably only have about 1 mile on it.

    I'll keep you guys updated and when I know everything is up and running good I will post the T42 tune to share with everybody and all the other info I have on the swap.

    Thanks agian

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    Update #2

    Okay I have had sometime to play with Trans Tune and it WORKS!!! Drives great and Locks up with no issues.

    I still need to figure out a few minor details.

    Thanks to Joecar and everybody who helped out with this one. Can not thank you enough.

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    Glad you got it sorted out, just needs a little massaging once you get the basics done!
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    2008 TrailBlazer SS 3SS AWD Summit White - LS2 E67/T42, bolt ons, suspension, etc.
    2002 Chevy TrailBlazer LT 4X4 Summit White - 4.2L I6 P10, lifted, wheels, etc.

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    Cool good job.

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