Diesel tuning restrictions for USA customers

[GMPX]

As many of you may have heard or read about in the last few days, our next software update will contain restrictions to the available calibrations for diesel engines. More specifically for the LMM and 6.7L Cummins that have a DPF system fitted.
USA based customers will no longer have access to alter the calibrations affecting the operation and diagnostics of these emissions controlling components. For EFILive users outside of the USA this restriction will not apply and you should notice no change in what you can and can't tune. There will not be separate USA and International versions of the software, there will still only be one version for downloading.

We would like to make this thread the official place to ask questions regarding these changes, however, if the questions are nothing more than you venting your dissatisfaction about this then the post will be removed.

Please read THIS as a starting point.

Based on the ongoing discussions in this thread, below is a few key items, an FAQ of sorts that you might miss reading through the various pages.

• Your existing V2's, Autocals etc will continue to work fine with the current public releases, V7.5.7 Build 211 & V8.2.1 Build 203.
• If you update the firmware in the V2/AC to that in the next release it might not work correctly with older software, it's always been this way with each new release anyway.
• For any existing tune files you have, the tuning changes will remain untouched, all new tune files created with the next update will not have access to the DPF related functions for USA customers.
• It's still your choice if you update or not, we aren't forcing you, we aren't sneaking the restrictions in.
• There will only be one version of the EFILive software, there is no secret 'international' version USA users can install.
• The restrictions have nothing to do with your registration details on the forum or with your V2 warranty cards.
• Sending EFILive staff Emails and PM's asking how to get around this will simply be ignored, no response whatsoever.

NOVEMBER 2013 Update:
Due to time constraints, the November 7th, 2013 software release will be the final public software release for Customers in 2013. EFILive expects additional pre-release software for LML mapping and E20 Non USA Diesel Cruze tuning support to be released before the end of the 2013.

Specifically, EFILive will not be implementing any software restrictions in 2013. Customers and Tuners should familiarize themselves with their local laws and restrictions as per http://www.efilive.com/legal. EFILive shall provide further customer updates as they become available in 2014.

Kind regards

The EFILive Team

[catman3126]

HMM so if theres only one download how will it be different for what region we live in?

[someguy]

HMM so if theres only one download how will it be different for what region we live in?

My *guess* is registered VIN.

http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgivi...&Submit=Decode

Someone have a VIN for a non US truck ?

Or it will be via the IP address that the computer doing the tuning is connected to when a new VIN license is issued.

Maybe I should have kept that quiet...

[schwoch1]

I have my own opinion on what the software will look for to determine if you are in the states or not, and I am going to assume it is right on your computer. I will guess also that it will not be IP or VIN based either, but again, I could be totally wrong!
Just my opinion again!!

Mike

[catman3126]

I would guess it will be because of where each individual has registered their V2's and there will be programming in the update that will recognize the loacation of registration and makes its so the deletetion ability will not be in the update? also so if we don't update to the new software will we be able to still buy licences? thanks for the information.

[rennat_2006]

I would guess it will be because of where each individual has registered their V2's and there will be programming in the update that will recognize the loacation of registration and makes its so the deletetion ability will not be in the update? also so if we don't update to the new software will we be able to still buy licences? thanks for the information.

x2 on these questions.

I know this is the diesel section but also curious about the gassers since im using mine for LS Swaps into muscle cars if they will be any changes with them?

[cumminsDK]

How will we continue to support customers whose trucks are already deleted and no longer own a Dpf?

[catman3126]

yeah I use mine for that too. I hope it doesnt have much change on that

[z79outlaw]

Are we going to lose more features and support in the future?

[GMPX]

HMM so if theres only one download how will it be different for what region we live in?

I would guess it will be because of where each individual has registered their V2's and there will be programming in the update that will recognize the loacation of registration and makes its so the deletetion ability will not be in the update? also so if we don't update to the new software will we be able to still buy licences? thanks for the information.

Obviously we aren't about to explain how we have region specific restrictions in place, but it has nothing to do with your V2's, so ordering a new V2 from outside of the USA and registering it with EFILive from Paris, France won't magically open things up for you if you are still tuning in the USA. We also didn't want to be generating individual install packages based on peoples location, that would be ridiculous, not only that, non USA versions would be up on torrent sites the moment they were released.

I know this is the diesel section but also curious about the gassers since im using mine for LS Swaps into muscle cars if they will be any changes with them?

Currently there is no plans to restrict any functions from the LS side of things. There is a very different mindset with the gas side of tuning though, the people who are going to the trouble of fitting an LS motor in to an old car probably do so because they are wanting to make good clean power, maybe even run it on E85, just like a 2010 Silverado gasser would. The legalities of doing this probably varies state by state in the US, so you probably need to investigate that yourself.

How will we continue to support customers whose trucks are already deleted and no longer own a Dpf?

The changes will not affect existing tunes, we can't wind back or undo what has already been done to a file prior to this new update.

Are we going to lose more features and support in the future?

Unfortunately we are not in a position to answer that with any certainty, we aren't the rule makers on this one, we've decided to try to play ball like everyone else has.