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Thread: Having so many problems with this Zone tuning

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    Default Having so many problems with this Zone tuning

    Ok I have been dealing with this E38 ecu way to long. I am understanding the zones and the fact that if you edit part f a zone you need to edit the full zone. Im still getting use to the generate Coef and VVE.

    Problem is the tutorials say to Copy with labels my data log and then paste with labels multiple well every time I do the map just flattens out.

    Here is a long log i did on the dyno trying to just fill cells.
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    Here is before i apply the paste function
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    And here is what happens when i paste.
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    I have tried selecting my external wideband. I have tried pasting the BEN also. either one always ends with a flat map. I have tried all the paste options including multiply divide add subtract etc.

    I have been tuning in open loop on the 2 bar table as indicated in the Virtual VE tutorial and also added more fuel to the areas for boost etc as said in the PDF. can someone help me. I have been manually tuning every cell and it takes tons of time even with interpolation.

    Sorry Im just exhausted with this car and at a breaking point

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    Post a screenshot of the map you're pasting from...

    (on Data, Row, Col tabs be sure to checkmark Show Units).



    What pid are you populating the map with...?

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    Joecar here is a screen shot of the log i am trying to paste into the map.

    Here is the External AF
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    Here is the same log but with the BEN
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    I have tried pasting both into the tune file but it corrupts everytime. all the PDF's make it seam easy but it hasn't worked for me on either e38 or LS1B ecus i have tried it on. I take it im doing something wrong and need pointed in the correct direction please.

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    You can't paste the AFR map into the VVE table.

    The only correct thing to do is paste-multiply the BEN map... but that BEN map is incorrect (the values should be on close to 1.00 from either side of 1.00).

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    is there another ben map to be using?

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    the unit shown in that screen shot is CALC.BEN1

    I have also tried CALC.BEN_LC11 but all the cells just say Zero

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    BEN1 is not the right pid for E38.


    The correct BEN pid would calculate: {EXT.WO2LAM1} / {SAE.LAMBDA}


    What calc_pids.txt file are you using...?


    You could use the calc_pids.txt from the Calc.VET thread, but you would have to modify CLC-00-110 like this:

    change "{GM.EQIVRATIO}*{EXT.WO2LAM1}" to "{EXT.WO2LAM1}/{SAE.LAMBDA}"

    ( use Windows Notepad )

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    where is said thread? as for PIDs i believe i opened the e38.pid file found with the software then added serial wideband pids.

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    Ok found it, changed it in notepad as you said and put it in my documents> EFI Live> V7.5> user config like stated. Am i to open this somehow in the logger or anything i may have to do otherwise?

    here is mine moddified like you said Joe
    calc_pids E38 moddified.txt

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