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    Default T43/E38 6L90 Shift points change

    Any idea how to change the shift points at WOT for the 6L90? I'm thinking I should have bought HPT.
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    LABELS 1>2 WOT Shift (a)
    Parameters Value
    {D1100} 1>2 WOT Shift (a) 26.845169 MPH
    {D1101} 1>2 WOT Shift (b) 26.845169 MPH
    {D1120} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 26.097582 MPH
    {D1121} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 26.097582 MPH
    {D1140} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 29.825808 MPH
    {D1141} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 29.825808 MPH
    {D1160} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 18.019759 MPH
    {D1161} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 18.019759 MPH
    {D1180} 1>2 WOT Hot Shift (a) 27.961695 MPH
    {D1181} 1>2 WOT Hot Shift (b) 27.961695 MPH
    {D1110} 2>1 WOT Shift (a) 23.612098 MPH
    {D1111} 2>1 WOT Shift (b) 23.612098 MPH
    {D1130} 2>1 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 17.398388 MPH
    {D1131} 2>1 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 17.398388 MPH
    {D1150} 2>1 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 26.718953 MPH
    {D1151} 2>1 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 26.718953 MPH
    {D1170} 2>1 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 18.019759 MPH
    {D1171} 2>1 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 18.019759 MPH
    {D1190} 2>1 WOT Hot Shift (a) 21.811093 MPH
    {D1191} 2>1 WOT Hot Shift (b) 21.811093 MPH
    {D1102} 2>3 WOT Shift (a) 52.816535 MPH
    {D1103} 2>3 WOT Shift (b) 52.816535 MPH
    {D1122} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 48.466938 MPH
    {D1123} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 48.466938 MPH
    {D1142} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 57.166132 MPH
    {D1143} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 57.166132 MPH
    {D1162} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 55.302019 MPH
    {D1163} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 55.302019 MPH
    {D1182} 2>3 WOT Hot Shift (a) 48.093144 MPH
    {D1183} 2>3 WOT Hot Shift (b) 48.093144 MPH
    {D1112} 3>2 WOT Shift (a) 49.709680 MPH
    {D1113} 3>2 WOT Shift (b) 49.709680 MPH
    {D1132} 3>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 43.495970 MPH
    {D1133} 3>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 43.495970 MPH
    {D1152} 3>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 52.816535 MPH
    {D1153} 3>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 52.816535 MPH
    {D1172} 3>2 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 51.573793 MPH
    {D1173} 3>2 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 51.573793 MPH
    {D1192} 3>2 WOT Hot Shift (a) 46.976618 MPH
    {D1193} 3>2 WOT Hot Shift (b) 46.976618 MPH
    {D1104} 3>4 WOT Shift (a) 79.535487 MPH
    {D1105} 3>4 WOT Shift (b) 79.535487 MPH
    {D1124} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1125} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1144} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 79.535487 MPH
    {D1145} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 79.535487 MPH
    {D1164} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 90.098794 MPH
    {D1165} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 90.098794 MPH
    {D1184} 3>4 WOT Hot Shift (a) 81.647178 MPH
    {D1185} 3>4 WOT Hot Shift (b) 81.647178 MPH
    {D1114} 4>3 WOT Shift (a) 71.457664 MPH
    {D1115} 4>3 WOT Shift (b) 71.457664 MPH
    {D1134} 4>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 71.457664 MPH
    {D1135} 4>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 71.457664 MPH
    {D1154} 4>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 73.321777 MPH
    {D1155} 4>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 73.321777 MPH
    {D1174} 4>3 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 80.778229 MPH
    {D1175} 4>3 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 80.778229 MPH
    {D1194} 4>3 WOT Hot Shift (a) 75.496576 MPH
    {D1195} 4>3 WOT Hot Shift (b) 75.496576 MPH
    {D1106} 4>5 WOT Shift (a) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1107} 4>5 WOT Shift (b) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1126} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1127} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1146} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1147} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1166} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1167} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 93.205649 MPH
    {D1186} 4>5 WOT Hot Shift (a) 108.492347 MPH
    {D1187} 4>5 WOT Hot Shift (b) 108.492347 MPH
    {D1116} 5>4 WOT Shift (a) 91.962907 MPH
    {D1117} 5>4 WOT Shift (b) 91.962907 MPH
    {D1136} 5>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 98.176617 MPH
    {D1137} 5>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 98.176617 MPH
    {D1156} 5>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 91.962907 MPH
    {D1157} 5>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 91.962907 MPH
    {D1176} 5>4 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1177} 5>4 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1196} 5>4 WOT Hot Shift (a) 91.715330 MPH
    {D1197} 5>4 WOT Hot Shift (b) 91.715330 MPH
    {D1108} 5>6 WOT Shift (a) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1109} 5>6 WOT Shift (b) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1128} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1129} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1148} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1149} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 318.137095 MPH
    {D1168} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 158.449604 MPH
    {D1169} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 158.449604 MPH
    {D1188} 5>6 WOT Hot Shift (a) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1189} 5>6 WOT Hot Shift (b) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1118} 6>5 WOT Shift (a) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1119} 6>5 WOT Shift (b) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1138} 6>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1139} 6>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1158} 6>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1159} 6>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 317.520579 MPH
    {D1178} 6>5 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1179} 6>5 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 76.428632 MPH
    {D1198} 6>5 WOT Hot Shift (a) 316.899208 MPH
    {D1199} 6>5 WOT Hot Shift (b) 316.899208 MPH

    LABELS 1>2 WOT Shift (a)
    Parameters Value
    {D1200} 1>2 WOT Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1201} 1>2 WOT Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1210} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1211} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1220} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1221} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1230} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1231} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1202} 2>3 WOT Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1203} 2>3 WOT Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1212} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1213} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1222} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1223} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1232} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1233} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1204} 3>4 WOT Shift (a) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1205} 3>4 WOT Shift (b) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1214} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1215} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1224} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1225} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1234} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1235} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1206} 4>5 WOT Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1207} 4>5 WOT Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1216} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1217} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1226} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1227} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1236} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1237} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1208} 5>6 WOT Shift (a) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1209} 5>6 WOT Shift (b) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1218} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1219} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1228} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1229} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1238} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 4000.000000 RPM
    {D1239} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 4000.000000 RPM

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    Pretty simple if you ask me. You have to upload the trans separately from the engine controller.

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    Brian, as I said in your other thread, have you read and looked in the TCM? You HAVE to read the TCM out in order to adjust ANY trans parameter, the ECM contains 0 trans information.

    Thanks MSURacing for the table #s!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSURacing View Post
    Pretty simple if you ask me. You have to upload the trans separately from the engine controller.
    Do you know what the Pattern A and Pattern B are? Is that table a stock Value? I don't think it is that simple. I can't even get into the TCM with this software, something wrong with the cable interface and software version. That table shows a "Hot Shift" and I'm wondering what that is, it shows a hot shift 5>6 at 317mph. Maybe you could explain it and if I can get into the table, I could make the changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 55chevdelray View Post
    Do you know what the Pattern A and Pattern B are? Is that table a stock Value? I don't think it is that simple. I can't even get into the TCM with this software, something wrong with the cable interface and software version. That table shows a "Hot Shift" and I'm wondering what that is, it shows a hot shift 5>6 at 317mph. Maybe you could explain it and if I can get into the table, I could make the changes.
    Pattern A is typically daily driving, pattern B is tow/haul (or sport mode in cars) hot mode is if the trans is detected to be in an overheated state, kinda like a protection mode. Setting it to 317 is GMs way of saying if its overheating you won't be able to use 6th. One of the patterns will be cruise control, but I'm not at my laptop to look up which one that is.

    Be patient. It's really pretty simple once you wrap your head around what is supposed to happen. Until then, yes, it's hard to see the forest for the trees. Just be patient and take lots of time studying the tables to make sure you understand what each does.

    Have you read out the T43 tune yet? You must connect to the T43 controller and read it out separate from the E38. Are you trying to read with your V2 connected to your computer or are you just connecting the V2 only to the vehicle? That method is called BlackBox operation and you must make sure you have loaded the T43 module into the V2 from your computer first, otherwise you will never be able to connect to it. You can change those settings under the BBX tab of the V8 scan and tune software.

    First tho, make sure your firmware is up to date, and your software too. Connect your V2 and check for updates in the scan and tune V8 software.

    Also, whoever you purchased your V2 from is supposed to provide you with adequate instructions or explanation of how to get started. If not we are more than glad to help you out
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    Post your TCM file.

    Also, which V7/V8 build version are you using...? Which V2 firmware version...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelz View Post
    Pattern A is typically daily driving, pattern B is tow/haul (or sport mode in cars) hot mode is if the trans is detected to be in an overheated state, kinda like a protection mode. Setting it to 317 is GMs way of saying if its overheating you won't be able to use 6th. One of the patterns will be cruise control, but I'm not at my laptop to look up which one that is.

    Be patient. It's really pretty simple once you wrap your head around what is supposed to happen. Until then, yes, it's hard to see the forest for the trees. Just be patient and take lots of time studying the tables to make sure you understand what each does.

    Have you read out the T43 tune yet? You must connect to the T43 controller and read it out separate from the E38. Are you trying to read with your V2 connected to your computer or are you just connecting the V2 only to the vehicle? That method is called BlackBox operation and you must make sure you have loaded the T43 module into the V2 from your computer first, otherwise you will never be able to connect to it. You can change those settings under the BBX tab of the V8 scan and tune software.

    First tho, make sure your firmware is up to date, and your software too. Connect your V2 and check for updates in the scan and tune V8 software.

    Also, whoever you purchased your V2 from is supposed to provide you with adequate instructions or explanation of how to get started. If not we are more than glad to help you out
    Thanks. Thanks for the encouragement. I was able to download both controller files (E38 & T43) and saved them to my computer. I wasn't sure about what version I should be using. I downloaded the V7.5 and the current updates and also downloaded the V8 with current firmware updates as well. I had some initial problems opening the E38 but found the ZIP file, to address that problem. I'll need to determine the best shift points to set into my trans controller. I haven't found any spreadsheets that help to determine optimum shift points. Any knowledge of where I might find one. I found one yesterday, but it was in metric and I'd like one in MPH. Thanks again, it is a bit of the forest before the trees for me right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Post your TCM file.

    Also, which V7/V8 build version are you using...? Which V2 firmware version...?
    How do I post the file?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Post your TCM file.

    Also, which V7/V8 build version are you using...? Which V2 firmware version...?
    {D1200} 1>2 WOT Shift (a)
    {D1201} 1>2 WOT Shift (b)
    {D1210} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (a)
    {D1211} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (b)
    {D1220} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (a)
    {D1221} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (b)
    {D1230} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (a)
    {D1231} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (b)
    {D1202} 2>3 WOT Shift (a)
    {D1203} 2>3 WOT Shift (b)
    {D1212} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (a)
    {D1213} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (b)
    {D1222} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (a)
    {D1223} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (b)
    {D1232} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (a)
    {D1233} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (b)
    {D1204} 3>4 WOT Shift (a)
    {D1205} 3>4 WOT Shift (b)
    {D1214} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (a)
    {D1215} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (b)
    {D1224} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (a)
    {D1225} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (b)
    {D1234} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (a)
    {D1235} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (b)
    {D1206} 4>5 WOT Shift (a)
    {D1207} 4>5 WOT Shift (b)
    {D1216} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (a)
    {D1217} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (b)
    {D1226} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (a)
    {D1227} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (b)
    {D1236} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (a)
    {D1237} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (b)
    {D1208} 5>6 WOT Shift (a)
    {D1209} 5>6 WOT Shift (b)
    {D1218} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (a)
    {D1219} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (b)
    {D1228} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (a)
    {D1229} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (b)
    {D1238} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (a)
    {D1239} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (b)

    LABELS 1>2 WOT Shift (b)
    Parameters Value
    {D1200} 1>2 WOT Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1201} 1>2 WOT Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1210} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1211} 1>2 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1220} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1221} 1>2 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1230} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1231} 1>2 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1202} 2>3 WOT Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1203} 2>3 WOT Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1212} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1213} 2>3 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1222} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1223} 2>3 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5600.000000 RPM
    {D1232} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1233} 2>3 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1204} 3>4 WOT Shift (a) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1205} 3>4 WOT Shift (b) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1214} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1215} 3>4 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1224} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1225} 3>4 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5400.000000 RPM
    {D1234} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1235} 3>4 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1206} 4>5 WOT Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1207} 4>5 WOT Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1216} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1217} 4>5 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1226} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1227} 4>5 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1236} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1237} 4>5 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 5200.000000 RPM
    {D1208} 5>6 WOT Shift (a) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1209} 5>6 WOT Shift (b) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1218} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (a) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1219} 5>6 WOT Pattern A Shift (b) 5000.000000 RPM
    {D1228} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (a) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1229} 5>6 WOT Pattern B Shift (b) 8191.875000 RPM
    {D1238} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (a) 4000.000000 RPM
    {D1239} 5>6 WOT TUTD Shift (b) 4000.000000 RPM

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    Last edited by 55chevdelray; May 21st, 2013 at 03:31 AM.
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