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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    2.7.42

    Freeze Frame funny characters on V2 LCD (up-arrows, down-arrows), see attached:
    That appears to be a bug related to the last displayed format of the PIDs during BBL.
    If you last had the PID values set to display in large font (toggled using Ctrl+Enter during data logging) then the FF display will try unsuccessfully to turn on/off large fonts (which is what those up/down arrows characters are).

    I will get that fixed asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Also notice that in the DTC txt file the date is wrong (off by one month)... I did Set Now in HAPI.
    The dates show up correctly on my test system here.

    I presume you meant the "Set Now" option in EFILive Explorer (not HAPI)?
    The date/time stored in the file should be within a few seconds of the file's actual date/time stamp.

    Can you double check that setting the date correctly still causes the wrong date to be stored in the file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Also, for an unsupported OS, the CVN's part number reads as zero (but this doesn't really matter, unless it's a bug), see attached:
    It should not show as zero - that would be a bug. What controller was that CVN display taken from?
    Can you make that happen again? If so can you save a trace file and send it to me thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    So the unsupported ones are always ready...

    so actually there are 4 states (of which one is not legal).

    Yes, the hard part is designing sutiable abbreviated display labels to fit the V2/AC LCD...
    [ e.g. RDY (ready/supported), PND (pending/supported), CMP (complete/unsupported), INC (incomplete/unsupported) ]
    Its actually a little more complicated than that.

    There are two monitors: MONDTC and MONDRIVE.

    For MONDTC, each of the tests can report: ("SUP=YES" or "SUP=NO") and ("RDY=YES" or "RDY=NO")
    SUP mean supported, RDY means ready.

    For MONDRIVE, each of the tests can report: ("ENA=YES" or "ENA=NO") and ("CMP=YES" or "CMP=NO")
    ENA means Enabled, CMP means completed

    If a test is not supported (via MONDTC) it must report as follows:
    SUP=NO
    RDY=YES
    ENA=YES or NO
    CMP=YES


    that means there is only one display option for MONDTC:
    SUP=NO,RDY=YES
    and two display options for MONDRIVE
    ENA=YES,CMP=YES
    ENA=NO,CMP=YES



    If a test is supported (via MONDTC) it must report as follows:
    SUP=YES
    RDY=YES or NO
    ENA=YES or NO
    CMP=YES or NO


    that means there are two display options for MONDTC:
    SUP=YES,RDY=YES
    SUP=YES,RDY=NO


    and four display options for MONDRIVE
    ENA=YES,CMP=YES
    ENA=NO,CMP=YES
    ENA=YES,CMP=NO
    ENA=NO,CMP=NO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    Hi Joe,

    I can't make the CVN's show up as zero on my test LS1 here. Can you make them show zero on yours there, then save a trace file and send me the trace file, thanks?

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    Ok, will do over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    The dates show up correctly on my test system here.

    I presume you meant the "Set Now" option in EFILive Explorer (not HAPI)?
    The date/time stored in the file should be within a few seconds of the file's actual date/time stamp.

    Can you double check that setting the date correctly still causes the wrong date to be stored in the file?

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    Paul
    Yes, Set Now in EE...

    ok, I'll double check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    That appears to be a bug related to the last displayed format of the PIDs during BBL.
    If you last had the PID values set to display in large font (toggled using Ctrl+Enter during data logging) then the FF display will try unsuccessfully to turn on/off large fonts (which is what those up/down arrows characters are).

    I will get that fixed asap.

    Regards
    Paul
    Yes, I always use Large font in BBL... lol, I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    It should not show as zero - that would be a bug. What controller was that CVN display taken from?
    Can you make that happen again? If so can you save a trace file and send it to me thanks.

    Regards
    Paul
    The controller is part # 12209624 from a 2002 Grand Am 3.4L V6 (unsupported), and the OS is 12217063 (unsupported).

    Ok, I'll save the trace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    Its actually a little more complicated than that.

    There are two monitors: MONDTC and MONDRIVE.

    For MONDTC, each of the tests can report: ("SUP=YES" or "SUP=NO") and ("RDY=YES" or "RDY=NO")
    SUP mean supported, RDY means ready.

    For MONDRIVE, each of the tests can report: ("ENA=YES" or "ENA=NO") and ("CMP=YES" or "CMP=NO")
    ENA means Enabled, CMP means completed

    If a test is not supported (via MONDTC) it must report as follows:
    SUP=NO
    RDY=YES
    ENA=YES or NO
    CMP=YES


    that means there is only one display option for MONDTC:
    SUP=NO,RDY=YES
    and two display options for MONDRIVE
    ENA=YES,CMP=YES
    ENA=NO,CMP=YES



    If a test is supported (via MONDTC) it must report as follows:
    SUP=YES
    RDY=YES or NO
    ENA=YES or NO
    CMP=YES or NO


    that means there are two display options for MONDTC:
    SUP=YES,RDY=YES
    SUP=YES,RDY=NO


    and four display options for MONDRIVE
    ENA=YES,CMP=YES
    ENA=NO,CMP=YES
    ENA=YES,CMP=NO
    ENA=NO,CMP=NO


    Regards
    Paul
    Wow... CARB overdid the complexity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Wow... CARB overdid the complexity.
    Yes indeed.

    Back when we started, the original SAE-J1979 spec scan tool reporting was only 25 pages :(
    The latest SAE-J1979 spec for is now 221 pages.

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    Paul
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