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Thread: True HP PID

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    Default True HP PID

    Don't want this lost in the other post.

    Just add to the calc_pids.txt

    400 or whatever you think your max hp should be.
    3554 is the vehicle weight ( replace with your value here )
    185 - driver weight ( and passenger(s))
    ,6 is the change in (x) polls. I used 3 different ones. One at 1,6,12

    chose the sae.vss.mph and gm.fuelrem pid then you are all set. You can add in the hp pids later to review or have them real time.

    # Add slot definitions here
    *CLC-00-989
    hp 0.0 400.0 .0 "(((3554+({GM.FUELREM}*6.350)+185)*{SAE.VSS.mph})*d x({SAE.VSS.mph},6))/8226.63"


    *PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
    CALC.SSHPTRUE6 F60A CLC-00-989 "kW,hp" Performance "SS TRUE HP 06"



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    What about aero and rolling drag corrections ?

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    That pid calculates HP left over to accelerate the vehicle after all resistance/friction has been overcome (i.e. "road HP" rather than dyno HP);

    if you know how to compute aero/rolling/drag corrections then add them on and you got dyno HP.


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    With this pid you can roughly compute flywheel hp....

    On a given stretch of road:
    a. log accelerating at WOT all the way to speed X;
    b. in the same direction, log coasting (neutral) down from speed X;

    a will give you positive hp numbers;
    b will give you negative hp numbers;

    at each MPH compute (a - b) and this is approximately flywheel hp;

    this can be close if you don't spin, and if you do a and b minutes apart.

    a is engine power minus all the losses.
    b is only all the losses.

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    Of course this assumes you have dfco on immediately!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringram
    Of course this assumes you have dfco on immediately!?
    If the trans. is in neutral, then it won't matter.

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    Not to nitpick, but technically you need to have the clutch disengaged to keep from turning the input shaft of the trans.

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    Can someone tell me why the following PID will not work? It is identical to the 'CALC.POWER_RW' except I use my 'CALC.SPEED.mph' for higher resolution. The PRN numbering appears to be correct and should calculate the speed before calculating the power. 600 and 601 work properly.

    By the way, the following PIDs will calculate true rear wheel Hp with rolling resistance and aero drag. The only variables left out are road inclination and wind.

    # ================================================== ============================
    # Add slot definitions here
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
    #
    #Units Low High Fmt Expression
    #------------ ------------- ------------- ---- --------------------------------------------------------------

    *CLC-00-600
    mph 0.00 160.00 .2 "{GM.TOS}*28.68/(3.73*336.135)"
    kph 0.00 260.00 .2 "{GM.TOS}*728.47/(3.73*5305.16)"

    *CLC-00-601
    Roadhp 0.0 400.0 .1 "((0.012*5060)+({GM.BARO.inHg}/({SAE.IAT.F}+460)/22.0824*0.506*20.125*{CALC.SPEED.mph}*{CALC.SPEED. mph}))*{CALC.SPEED.mph}/375"

    *CLC-00-602
    RealHp2 0.0 400.0 .1 "5060*{CALC.SPEED.mph}*dx({CALC.SPEED.mph},5)/8226.63+{CALC.RLHP}"

    # ================================================== ============================
    *PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
    #
    #Code PRN SLOT Units System Description
    #------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ------------------------------------------

    CALC.SPEED F600 CLC-00-600 "mph,kph" Performance "Speed Calc"
    CALC.RLHP F601 CLC-00-601 "Roadhp" Performance "Road Load Hp Losses"
    CALC.REALHP2 F602 CLC-00-602 "RealHp2" Performance "Real Horsepower"

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    Send me a log with the correct pids so I can check it against mine. I think I have it all setup right for you.

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    Here is the short log I took to test the PIDs.
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