Manual vs Auto

[ezobens]

So it appears I can only do the Calc.VET with a wideband O2?
Can I replace one of the existing NB O2 sensors with the WB?
Will this affect how I can datalog or tune the PCM?
I have a 14point7 WB O2 reader- Will this provide the info I need or do I need to connect this to EFILive somehow?
Thank you,
Elm

[joecar]

Hi Elm,

Without a wideband, you can do some limited tuning using the LTFT's... but this would not cover sufficent portions of the VE and MAF tables...

a wideband is recommended.

Yes, you could replace one NBO2 with a wideband, but you would disable trims, and tailor Calc.VET to use wideband only (so this becomes AutoMAF), and of course make sure VE does not contribute (either disable it, or filter it out).

Some widebands, like the LC-2, provide outputs for wb and nb signals.

~Moderator~

[ezobens]

After a long and challenging year, I am finally getting back to working on this tune.
I've been reading topics regarding CALC.VE and CALC.VET
Which would be best suited for my tuning needs (0411 PCM, Modified L31 Tune utilizing MAP and MAF)?
I don't understand which one would be more appropriate for what applications?

EDIT:
I'm working through the CALC.VET Tutorial and am stuck on the PID selection.
I am unable to find any of the 'BEN' PIDs specified in the tutorial in the PID selection screen. Where do I get these?

Also,
I am getting some 4.9 Widebands from 14point7-
I can't seem to find any documentation that tells me what wideband sensors and controllers will work with the V2 and how to connect them.
Is there a link somewhere that has this information?

I really need to get this car on the road so I need to get up to speed on how all this stuff connects.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Elm

[joecar]

After a long and challenging year, I am finally getting back to working on this tune.
I've been reading topics regarding CALC.VE and CALC.VET
Which would be best suited for my tuning needs (0411 PCM, Modified L31 Tune utilizing MAP and MAF)?
I don't understand which one would be more appropriate for what applications?

I hope all is well with you.

Calc.VET is the later version of Calc.VE.

EDIT:
I'm working through the CALC.VET Tutorial and am stuck on the PID selection.
I am unable to find any of the 'BEN' PIDs specified in the tutorial in the PID selection screen. Where do I get these?

Did you download the calc_pids.txt file from post#1 of the Calc.VET thread (see below) and save it in the EFILive V7 User Configuration folder...?

I. PROCEDURE for SERIAL WIDEBAND and V2

1. Setup Calculated PIDS:

calc_pids.txt <--- updated calc_pids.txt file

Also,
I am getting some 4.9 Widebands from 14point7-
I can't seem to find any documentation that tells me what wideband sensors and controllers will work with the V2 and how to connect them.
Is there a link somewhere that has this information?

See attached screenshot of V8 S&T FSV2 device setup.

[ezobens]

Joe,
Thank you.
Cancer treatments take up alot of my time but my goal is to get this car driveable in the next 30-60 days!
Yes, I did copy over the CALC_PIDS.txt file.
Do I need to relaunch the app or something to get it to 'take'?
Also, for the wideband, I don't see 14point7- Do I just start from the top and try different settings till I find one that works?
Thank you for your time!
Elm

[joecar]

Hey Elm,

I hope you kill it off good and proper.


Exit the V7 scantool and restart it... on the PIDs tab, click on the column heading Parameter to sort alphabetically on this column, so you can now scroll down to find the pid CALC.WO2BEN...

double-click to select this pid, then if it has a red X thru it, go rightclick->More Info to see which other pids it depends on.


Does 14point7 have a user/tech manual pdf that I can look at...?

If we can't get serial comms going between the 14point7 and the FSV2, we can connect up using analog (in this case, I can edit the calc_pids.txt to suit this).

[ezobens]

Thank you Joe!
Here is a link to their doc:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...95484321716765

Scroll down to page 15 and 16.
Let me know if this answers your question or if I need to ping them directly for an answer.
Thanks again!
Elm

[joecar]

Thank you Joe!
Here is a link to their doc:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...95484321716765

Scroll down to page 15 and 16.
Let me know if this answers your question or if I need to ping them directly for an answer.
Thanks again!
Elm

Their doc does not show any serial comms data formats... I'm asking Paul if he knows anything about their format.

[ezobens]

I suspect it’s an analog signal.
If you can phrase the question(s) for me, I can e-mail them to Alan at 14point7- He designed all their stuff.
Thank you,
Elm

[Blacky]

Thank you Joe!
Here is a link to their doc:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...95484321716765

Scroll down to page 15 and 16.
Let me know if this answers your question or if I need to ping them directly for an answer.
Thanks again!
Elm

FlashScan won't be able to communicate with that wide band controller, not until they implement some sort of serial data output.
See page 17 of the manual. It says the RS232 (serial) ports are not available and are for future expansion.

Regards
Paul