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    this custom PID system is so painful to use....


    what am I missing here in this....

    Doesnt show up in my scanner anywhere..

    Trying to make a custom PID to do Long Term Fuel Trims and Short Term Fuel Trims combined...basically...TOTAL Fuel Trims

    Code:
    # ==============================================================================
    # Add slot definitions here
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
    #
    #Units             Low          High      Fmt  Expression
    #------------ ------------- ------------- ---- --------------------------------------------------------------
    
    *CLC-00-002
    %                  -100         100       .1  "(({SAE.LONGFT1}+{SAE.LONGFT2})/2)+(({SAE.SHRTFT1}+{SAE.SHRTFT2})/2)"
    
    
    # ==============================================================================
    *PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
    #
    #Code                      PRN  SLOT         Units            System           Description
    #------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ------------------------------------------
    
    CALC.TRIMS                F002 CLC-00-002     "%"            None              "Fuel Trims "

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    I'm not sure if your calc pid is built correctly? Take a look at others and you'll see if you missed a space or a symbol etc... they are not hard to work with. After I got all mine set I haven't changed them in a year...

    But what your trying to do is not going to help in any way? LTFT are set by STFT... your combining the 2 is going to give a number that won't help at all with any tuning!

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    Add at least 2 blank lines at the end of the calc_pids.txt file (after your very last line of text).

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    Also, which folder are you placing the calc_pids.txt file...?

    It goes here: My Documents\EFILive\V7.5\User Configuration

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    I'm not sure if your calc pid is built correctly? Take a look at others and you'll see if you missed a space or a symbol etc... they are not hard to work with. After I got all mine set I haven't changed them in a year...
    I have another PID working Just fine...
    used the exact same template and just changed the values for a new PID with new Math.


    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    But what your trying to do is not going to help in any way? LTFT are set by STFT... your combining the 2 is going to give a number that won't help at all with any tuning!
    Actually, Tuning With LTFT + STFT is getting all the corrections instead of just the Long term ones
    Fueling can swing quite far in Short term before the long term updates...
    this guarantees that if my LTFT is only 4, but my Short term is swinging from 0~8... I get the average of the STFT being 4 as well...

    This is the complete way to do fuel trims...you can accomplish a lot in a very short time because you have all the data instead of just Half the data
    LTFT doesnt do you much good if your Short term is swinging +4 to +12 and not updating LTFT because it didnt meet all the criteria.

    and.. I actually helped design somebody elses software..I have just never used EFI Live until just a few days ago...and I'm just trying to help a friend get his EFI stuff set up to make it easier for him as a new "self" tuner....

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Add at least 2 blank lines at the end of the calc_pids.txt file (after your very last line of text).
    I have about 6 blank lines

    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Also, which folder are you placing the calc_pids.txt file...?

    It goes here: My Documents\EFILive\V7.5\User Configuration

    yeah.. its in that folder..

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    anybody else have any ideas on what I am missing or doing incorrectly that is causing EFI live to not Show my PID's?

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    Post your calc_pids.txt file (as an attachment).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty-Do-Dah View Post
    this custom PID system is so painful to use....


    what am I missing here in this....

    Doesnt show up in my scanner anywhere..

    Trying to make a custom PID to do Long Term Fuel Trims and Short Term Fuel Trims combined...basically...TOTAL Fuel Trims

    ...
    On the PIDs tab:

    - un-check "Supported",

    - click on the column heading "Parameter", click on it again (now this column is sorted alphabetically/ascending), scroll down until you see CALC.TRIMS.

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    here you go
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    On the PIDs tab:

    - un-check "Supported",

    - click on the column heading "Parameter", click on it again (now this column is sorted alphabetically), scroll down until you see CALC.TRIMS.


    I've already searched thru every possible column...and every possible section...
    Purposely put its "system" as None so I could fine it easier...if it would show up.
    the Boost PID in this file shows up just fine.

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