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Thread: Warning on ECM's previously flashed with Diablo

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    ProChargerTECH, thanks for your input. As I said in my initial post regarding Diablo "it is not necessarily something they are doing wrong", but what they are doing is causing problems with our reflash routines.
    When EFILive reflashes a controller that uses our own bootloader we do a flash validation check right at the end. So just before the flash is finalised our bootloader goes and validates the data that was written by comparing to the checksums in the tune, if everything is good then the flash is finalised and the ECM is allowed to reboot in to a 100% functional state, this is a safety net to ensure a half flashed ECM can never reboot and attempt to run an engine.
    If Diablo didn't put in the extra data at the end of the segments to correct the CVN back to stock then there would be no issues for us, however they do and people are going to keep running in to this issue. At this point what we may do is add the ability to detect and remove the CVN correction bytes on their tunes.

    Also, the tune we were sent in, I am making the assumption that vehicle was only tuned with a Diablo, this may in fact be another tuner doing this.
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    wow im assuming I got very very lucky....I had a customer come in with a brand new C7 two weeks ago saying that he felt like his diablo tune didn't do anything, long story short we put it back to stock with the diablo tuner and then I proceeded to tune the car with EFI Live, made 440 stock with it and never had an issue with flashing. Thanks for this info though this is VERY important to know!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8dogg View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMPX View Post
    ProChargerTECH, thanks for your input. As I said in my initial post regarding Diablo "it is not necessarily something they are doing wrong", but what they are doing is causing problems with our reflash routines.
    When EFILive reflashes a controller that uses our own bootloader we do a flash validation check right at the end. So just before the flash is finalised our bootloader goes and validates the data that was written by comparing to the checksums in the tune, if everything is good then the flash is finalised and the ECM is allowed to reboot in to a 100% functional state, this is a safety net to ensure a half flashed ECM can never reboot and attempt to run an engine.
    If Diablo didn't put in the extra data at the end of the segments to correct the CVN back to stock then there would be no issues for us, however they do and people are going to keep running in to this issue. At this point what we may do is add the ability to detect and remove the CVN correction bytes on their tunes.

    Also, the tune we were sent in, I am making the assumption that vehicle was only tuned with a Diablo, this may in fact be another tuner doing this.
    Only the first few beta cars we had in here were tuned with all three softwares (Diablo, EFILive, HPT) and literally back and forth countless times. As stated, none of the first (5) C7's ever had an issue, it wasn't until that one 2014 Truck did the issue occur. Currently they are all don't touch anything other then diablo, unless we do some testing with EFIlive handhelds as an option in the future.

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