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    Thank you Tre-Cool. Can this be used with V8 as well. Once I make the .cax file, how do I access the alternator control in EFI Live?

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    create it as a v7.5 cax, then use the in-built conversion tool to make it a v8 compliant file. I've still lazy and write them for 7.5, then convert later when needed.

    I haven't fully migrated to v8 for all my stuff yet.

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    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre-Cool View Post
    Save this to a text file and save with a .cax extension & place it in the C:\Program Files (x86)\EFILive\V7.5\Calibrations folder if using v7.5 with your os number for file name.

    [G1000]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Alternator Voltage Control: Indicates the vehicle is fitted with a regulated voltage control alternator and serial message duty cycle control from BCM is available, if disabled DC will be 100% when alternator is enabled.
    ;
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "Voltage Control" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1C0F04 0 8 SED 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Units 1.0 0 0 0 256 0 256
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    SI_ENUM = "0=Not-Fitted,1=Fitted"
    SI_ENUM = "0=Not-Fitted,1=Fitted"
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    [G1001]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Should only be enabled if Voltage Control is enabled. Indicates that the ECM can override the serial message alternator duty cycle to boost system voltage when required.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "ECM Override" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1E4720 0 8 SED 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Units 1.0 0 0 0 256 0 256
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    SI_ENUM = "0=Disabled,1=Enabled"
    IM_ENUM = "0=Disabled,1=Enabled"
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    Tre-Cool, Is there a specific line in the text that I can change if I want the duty cycle to be lest than 100%?

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    there might be a variable for it, there's a whole heap linked to that function block in the ecm. but understanding the conversion factor to work it out is a different matter. simple on/off switches are easy to follow.

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    Tre-Cool, I tried the patch and I'm not sure what I could be doing wrong. I can only control the alternator with the DVT tab in the v7.5 scan tool. If I interpreted the voltage control description correctly, when I change the alternator voltage control from fitted to not fitted, it should make the alternator go to 100% duty cycle or full voltage in this case, but it does not. I even lose alternator control in the DVT tab. Hopefully I missing something here. I've tried quick flash and full flash of the ECM. Hope you can help.

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    give these ones a shot. imo maybe changing the min duty cycle might bump it up along with the failure time. (the descriptions im stealing from HPT).

    [G1002]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Serial communications must be lost or duty cycle below minimum for this amount of time, before alternator duty cycle will be defaulted to 100%.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "Default Time" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1c0efe 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Seconds 0.00625 0 0 0 256 0 256
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    [G1003]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Maximum Duty Cycle requested by override voltage.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "Override DC Max" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1E46F8 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Percentage 0.003052 0 0 0 200 0 200
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    [G1004]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Minimum Duty Cycle used as limit for default action.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "DC Min" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1c0f00 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Percentage 0.003052 0 0 0 200 0 200
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre-Cool View Post
    give these ones a shot. imo maybe changing the min duty cycle might bump it up along with the failure time. (the descriptions im stealing from HPT).

    [G1002]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Serial communications must be lost or duty cycle below minimum for this amount of time, before alternator duty cycle will be defaulted to 100%.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "Default Time" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1c0efe 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Seconds 0.00625 0 0 0 256 0 256
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    [G1003]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Maximum Duty Cycle requested by override voltage.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "Override DC Max" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1E46F8 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Percentage 0.003052 0 0 0 200 0 200
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    [G1004]
    ; Description
    DESC.001 = Minimum Duty Cycle used as limit for default action.
    ;
    ; Seg Caption Major Minor Vis Dis 2D Grp
    ; --- -------------------------------- ---------------- ---------------- --- --- -- ---
    VIEW = 7 "DC Min" "Alternator" "" 1 1 0 0
    ;
    ; Address(es) BitOff Bits Typ Inv
    ; -------------------------------- ------ ---- --- ---
    ADDR = 1c0f00 0 16 UNM 0
    ;
    ; Units Factor Offset Prec MinLimit MaxLimit MinUser MaxUser
    ; -------- -------------- ------ ---- -------- -------- -------- --------
    SI_SLOT = Percentage 0.003052 0 0 0 200 0 200
    ;
    ; Body Col Row
    ; -------------- -------------- --------------
    ULABELS = . . .
    ;
    ; Enumerations
    ; -------------------------------------------------------------------
    ;
    ; Units Labels
    ; ---------------- -----------------------------------------------------
    SI_COL = .
    IM_COL = .
    SI_ROW = .
    IM_COL = .
    ; ================================================== =============================
    No luck Tre-Cool. I was wondering, is it possible to make alternator control in the DVT of the scan tool active in the tune tool? I maybe oversimplifying, but is it possible to just copy and paste the code from the V7.5 scan to the v7.5 tune program?

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