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    hi

    excuse me for asking this, but all threads on the subject are several years old.

    i will be supercharging a 2000 corvette, dont see myself tuning another car soon and the price difference is not an issue.

    what are the main reasons for using efilive in my situation?

    thanks

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    EFILive will allow you to do this specifically for your needs (adding SC to 2000 Y-car):
    - replace OS with COS (which has boost tables for VE/spark);

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    FlashScan V2 will allow you to:
    - use serial comms if your wideband supports it (eliminates voltage offset problems);
    - flash from SD card (no need to bring laptop to car);
    - view and log to SD card (can leave laptop at home);
    - view OBD2 data (including readiness tests, DTC (including description), mode $5 and $6 data) if you need this;

    EFILive V7 scantool features:
    - advanced correction maps with data filters;
    - advanced customizable chart/gauges;
    - scantool links into tunetool to show you the current operating cell in tables;
    - run the Moates Roadrunner (PCM modified for real time emulation) if you have access to one.
    - test/exercise all the various controls in real time (idle speed, trims, spark timing, various solenoids);

    EFILive V7 tunetool features:
    - transmission (and other) segment swaps if needed;
    - compare tune files that have same OS id;

    Have you tried the software...?

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    no, have not tried yet, will buy one or the other.

    so i dont need a laptop and can use a digital wideband. what is "sc" and "cos"? ("os" probably is operating system?)

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    I have both. hpt has a few more guys working for them so new ecu's have a bunch more options, but there scanner/logging software is a POS. Efilive is much more user friendly to use.

    the simple things like being able to highlight data in a log and have it highlight in the editor is a god send. You can't do that with hpt, so being able to find/track things in the tune is a lot easier. Another thing I found recently with hpt is you cannot add calculated pid's after u have started your log. That to me is another downfall.

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    thanks. i know im stupid. (not really, i have experience with motech.) what are calculated pids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dian View Post
    no, have not tried yet, will buy one or the other.

    so i dont need a laptop and can use a digital wideband. what is "sc" and "cos"? ("os" probably is operating system?)
    Yes, you don't need a laptop, you can do it all with a desktop.

    Yes, a wideband that supports serial comms (I'll get you a list of the ones that are supported. Edit see below).


    SC = supercharged

    COS = custom operating system (for PCM)


    Last edited by joecar; November 27th, 2014 at 08:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dian View Post
    thanks. i know im stupid. (not really, i have experience with motech.) what are calculated pids?
    Calculated pids are user-defined pids that are defined by a mathematical expression that you enter.

    As Tre-Cool said above, calc pids can be added before or after a log has been taken, and can be saved into a log file).
    Last edited by joecar; November 17th, 2014 at 10:48 AM.

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    Plus all Efilive custom operating systems are free. No need to burn any extra credits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.7ute View Post
    Plus all Efilive custom operating systems are free. No need to burn any extra credits.
    To keep this fair, so are HPTuner's now.

    I have both and use both (rarely these days unfortunately), but I find myself going to EFILive first. One of the biggest features is what tre-cool mentioned, the ability to have a log highlight the tune so you know exactly what the PCM/ECM is using at that particular point. Makes life a LOT easier!
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