2010-2015 Cummins Tuning Support moves into Beta

[SASDakota]

Hows your HEX these days???

Edit: Just realized this was my first post on EFI forums... awkward.

[cindy@efilive]

Estimated price

EFILive pricing won't change with this release.
FlashScan V2 with the cummins tuning option is $899.
AutoCal pricing is dependent on the value a tuner places on their work.

Based on what I see on the LML Tuning FAQ thread, deletes are not available even outside of the us.

Q - When will EFILive offer emission defeat calibrations for the LML?
A - This is a tricky one, outside of the USA it may be quite legal to remove DPF etc, currently we can't control who gets access to what so for now there is no emissions defeat calibrations planned. If you already have the DPF deleted then EFILive is probably not going to be suitable for your truck.

That FAQ is outdated. Emissions calibrations are available for LML customers depending on region.

Cheers
Cindy

[comnrailpwr]

Ok so one cable for multiple trucks and one gt tuner per truck?

according to bully dog web site you can use both the cable and tuner multiple times as long as the tuner is returned to stock. there is reset fee capability if you accidently fuster this up.
http://www.bullydog.com/reset_fees.php

[DMan1198]

Will it be both ecms at once?

[CGASTON]

EFILive pricing won't change with this release.
FlashScan V2 with the cummins tuning option is $899.
AutoCal pricing is dependent on the value a tuner places on their work.


That FAQ is outdated. Emissions calibrations are available for LML customers depending on region.

Cheers
Cindy

I just want to clarify and make sure that I read everything correctly. Am I going to need to have a system like bully dog in order to use EFI LIVE to tune with or will efilive be by itself?

[Cummins610]

Does efilive plan to offer a in house solution to the bullydog unlock? If you can't answer this I would understand..

Also for those asking about the GT reusability, I'm almost positive it's 1 unlock per GT, after you use it to unlock the ECM you can program(tune)a different vehicle like normal, but never unlock another cummins.

[Mitco39]

Its going to make the tuning costs for an unlocked truck quite high unfortunately.

[KhakiCummins]

Its going to make the tuning costs for an unlocked truck quite high unfortunately.

I don't see why tuning an unlocked 2013+ would be any more costly than a 2006-2012. Once the ECM is unlocked, it's business as usual using EFILive, you just can't read the stock tune out. Cindy has said that by time of release, a database of stock tunes SHOULD be available though. I can see initial tuning cost on a 2013+ being much higher though due to the initial unlock cost.

[GMPX]

Am I going to need to have a system like bully dog in order to use EFI LIVE to tune with or will efilive be by itself?

The BullyDog 'box' is the only thing capable of unlocking the 2013+ ECM so it will accept a modified tune, so yes you will need one or your tuner will need to do the mod for you with the BD box.

Does efilive plan to offer a in house solution to the bullydog unlock? If you can't answer this I would understand..

Not at this stage because the process is not done via the OBD-II port, the communication port BD are using to do this, our software is not configured to work with and it is a big job to make it work. The fact that a solution exists probably takes the pressure off us to do something as well.

I can see initial tuning cost on a 2013+ being much higher though due to the initial unlock cost.

Yes correct, it is the initial unlock cost that is the difference to any other ECM prior to 2013. At the same time a 2007 Dodge truck doesn't cost $60K either so it is all relative. Nobody is price gouging on this, it is the price we pay with the new technology in the 2013+, we should all be thankful the BullyDog box is available to begin with.

Cheers,
Ross

[Mitco39]

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