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    Title says it. how are they doing it without "pro tuning" or delete parameters provided to US based tuners or even out of the US based tuners. There's about half a dozen or so US based tuners providing this and the claim is that they are not using addition software or equipment to do so. So how's it being done and where can I get it? I get requests daily and am missing out on a lot of business due to not having it. I hear about .CAX but was also told that that has been disable or taken away from the EFI live update.
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    I would imagine they have built their own .cax files and are using those enhancements to provide deleted tunes. EFILive doesn't have support for deletes with the EFILive-provided .calz files, so they are either buying a deleted base file or have built .cax files for deletes.
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    Well that might be but it doesn't sound like someone is selling them unlocked deleted tunes.
    Last edited by catman3126; September 28th, 2015 at 06:30 AM.
    2015 3500HD crew cab long bed, 6" fabtech, slightly tuned, emissions intact.
    2005 dmax ccsb, EFI live tuned DSP 5 Full built motor, S471 billet single, More better built trans this time. and lots of other things.
    1984 CJ7 powered by a 2000 LS1. 4L60E.
    2012 Jetta TDI 6 speed manual, (yes the dirty the bastard haha)
    2003 Jetta TDI,
    1986 K10 LQ4/4L80E

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    EFILive removed the .cax features????
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    many thanks to Ross and Paul

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    Anyone tuning the 2010-2015 Cummins and is removing anything is doing it 100% outside of EFI-Live for finding/mapping the required parameters.

    Once the actual address is known for the required table a .CAX file is added to allow the tuner to see the actual table withing EFI-Live's software

    CAX files are a file a tuner makes and the software will open it with the .calz files, it will take lots and lots of time and money spent if you want to be able to do it yourself.

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    OK so what are they buying and or using? I'm guess you won't say but thought I would ask. and I don't care about what it costs.
    2015 3500HD crew cab long bed, 6" fabtech, slightly tuned, emissions intact.
    2005 dmax ccsb, EFI live tuned DSP 5 Full built motor, S471 billet single, More better built trans this time. and lots of other things.
    1984 CJ7 powered by a 2000 LS1. 4L60E.
    2012 Jetta TDI 6 speed manual, (yes the dirty the bastard haha)
    2003 Jetta TDI,
    1986 K10 LQ4/4L80E

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    According to Socal they have but IDK that for sure. I have a screen shot of the email from them saying so last week. I won't post it but I can email it if you want to see.
    2015 3500HD crew cab long bed, 6" fabtech, slightly tuned, emissions intact.
    2005 dmax ccsb, EFI live tuned DSP 5 Full built motor, S471 billet single, More better built trans this time. and lots of other things.
    1984 CJ7 powered by a 2000 LS1. 4L60E.
    2012 Jetta TDI 6 speed manual, (yes the dirty the bastard haha)
    2003 Jetta TDI,
    1986 K10 LQ4/4L80E

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    You need to be able to find the tables, to do that you need to know where they are located and then what the table is and how to make sense of it.

    Getting the information as to "where" the tables are is the first step, then once you know where they are you have to either build deleted base files or build a .CAX to be able to edit them.

    Not many people will help you out on that one, sucks but that is how business is today, if you can do something and another tuner cannot you get the business and they don't.

    Its not personal, its just a business decision we all make.
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    Understandable. So on another note what or where is the best way to learn "chip tuning" I have equipment to do "other then Cummins and Duramax" and know how it works but need to learn more about it. I guess if all else fails a trip to Italy will be in order lol.
    2015 3500HD crew cab long bed, 6" fabtech, slightly tuned, emissions intact.
    2005 dmax ccsb, EFI live tuned DSP 5 Full built motor, S471 billet single, More better built trans this time. and lots of other things.
    1984 CJ7 powered by a 2000 LS1. 4L60E.
    2012 Jetta TDI 6 speed manual, (yes the dirty the bastard haha)
    2003 Jetta TDI,
    1986 K10 LQ4/4L80E

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    Get the treasure map......either an engineers document, an authentic A2L file, without any references as to what things are and where things are, it its a huge waste of time, you will never figure it out without the map.

    Reverse engineering requires the expertise of someone on Ross or Paul's level and its extremely hard to do.

    You would be better off seeing if you work out an arrangement with someone who is currently offering them and become a re-seller of their tunes for the time being, as you can at least make some sales that way.

    Up to you.

    Good Luck
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