THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH....finally got the car back to the front of the list. Sure enough the constant 12v was switched. The vin change worked like a dream as soon as we got that straitened out. Sorry to ruffle any feathers. Whenever i have trouble in the future i will definitely turn here first. Once again thank you all so much, we were beating our head against the wall with this one. Sometimes you cant see the forrest for the trees. cheers..