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    Default Maximum Timing For Stock Engine

    What is the maximum timing that one can run on a stock engine with full deletes and cold air intake?

    Is there a general guideline in % that I should increase?

    For now the head studs are the factory bolts...

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    Default Maximum Timing For Stock Engine

    Timing is rpm and pulse related...you should be basing your timing using a calculator.
    Simply setting your max at say 25 or 32* isint the right way to go about it

    You may need 25* at 2600rpm but the calc may show a need for 30* at 2900rpm....
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    Wot at 50 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Phinney View Post
    Wot at 50 percent.
    If your using 50% on a re-entrant piston, your going to run the flame front out of the bowl as you start to push rpm
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    Do we have re-entrant bowl then?What kind of timing would ensure the flame stays in the bowl on a stock piston? What what really happens if it gets out?

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    On hp tuners/gassers I have an excel spreadsheet that helps me scale the values. I am looking to create similar or if some has one they want to share that would be cool too.

    At the moment I am looking for a maximum % safe timing that I can run on a stock engine as a general guide for the spreadsheet
    Last edited by EverydayDiesel; February 6th, 2016 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverydayDiesel View Post
    On hp tuners/gassers I have an excel spreadsheet that helps me scale the values. I am looking to create similar or if some has one they want to share that would be cool too.

    At the moment I am looking for a maximum % safe timing that I can run on a stock engine as a general guide for the spreadsheet
    EFILive has a calculator built into the Main Timing tables for Cummins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arinkuddy View Post
    Do we have re-entrant bowl then?What kind of timing would ensure the flame stays in the bowl on a stock piston? What what really happens if it gets out?
    6.7 engines have re-entrant bowls
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2007 5.9 View Post
    If your using 50% on a re-entrant piston, your going to run the flame front out of the bowl as you start to push rpm
    What are you considering when you say pushing rpm? My comment was at wot. What do you suggest then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhakiCummins View Post
    EFILive has a calculator built into the Main Timing tables for Cummins.
    It does but the original question is how much is the max % of timing i can safely apply to a stock engine

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