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Thread: Fast idle good by REALLY lean - NOT VVE

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    Default Fast idle good by REALLY lean - NOT VVE

    Helping someone tune there VE GTS with an E38

    When revved to about 2k in neutral the AFR goes to about 16-17 sometimes higher. But in gear under load in the same area on the VVE it's super rich. As we lean it out the fast idle gets leaner. This is almost like there is some correction table.

    What might it be? It's stumping me.

    Thanks.
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    Post log/tune files.

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    As requested.

    The VVE is more updated now but understanding why its so lean only not under load would be great.

    Thanks

    CY09 - VVE TUNE - OL - BOUND2SMOOTH - NEWPCM - MFSCALE V1.5.ctz
    OLdrive0019.efi
    OLfastidle0020.efi
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    Holden Commodore GTS - LS1 5.7
    12 rib Crank Driven Vortech V2 Centri Charger (Intercooled) 9 PSI.
    LS6 Intake
    LS6 Heads
    YT 1.7 Roller Rockers
    BTR Dual Spring with Ti retainers
    BTR Hardend 7.400 Push rods
    Comp Cam JAMCAM
    2 Bar Map
    Mafless
    LS2 Coils

    PCM LS1B with 512KB Running COS5 v01290005

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold View Post
    Helping someone tune there VE GTS with an E38

    When revved to about 2k in neutral the AFR goes to about 16-17 sometimes higher. But in gear under load in the same area on the VVE it's super rich. As we lean it out the fast idle gets leaner. This is almost like there is some correction table.

    What might it be? It's stumping me.

    Thanks.
    Are you running VE-only or VE/MAF...?

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    VE only. SD Closed loop longer term but tune is in SD OL mode for VVE tuning.
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    12 rib Crank Driven Vortech V2 Centri Charger (Intercooled) 9 PSI.
    LS6 Intake
    LS6 Heads
    YT 1.7 Roller Rockers
    BTR Dual Spring with Ti retainers
    BTR Hardend 7.400 Push rods
    Comp Cam JAMCAM
    2 Bar Map
    Mafless
    LS2 Coils

    PCM LS1B with 512KB Running COS5 v01290005

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    Joe did you notice anything?

    I assume an idle correction is causing some leaning out. but surely fast idle would be outside the idle table?
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    12 rib Crank Driven Vortech V2 Centri Charger (Intercooled) 9 PSI.
    LS6 Intake
    LS6 Heads
    YT 1.7 Roller Rockers
    BTR Dual Spring with Ti retainers
    BTR Hardend 7.400 Push rods
    Comp Cam JAMCAM
    2 Bar Map
    Mafless
    LS2 Coils

    PCM LS1B with 512KB Running COS5 v01290005

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behold View Post
    VE only. SD Closed loop longer term but tune is in SD OL mode for VVE tuning.
    Are you seeing an immediate MAF DTC...?

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    Try setting B8003 to all zeros.

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    Reset the fuel trims.

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    Done. No real difference.
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    12 rib Crank Driven Vortech V2 Centri Charger (Intercooled) 9 PSI.
    LS6 Intake
    LS6 Heads
    YT 1.7 Roller Rockers
    BTR Dual Spring with Ti retainers
    BTR Hardend 7.400 Push rods
    Comp Cam JAMCAM
    2 Bar Map
    Mafless
    LS2 Coils

    PCM LS1B with 512KB Running COS5 v01290005

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