Ok well first up we never said we would do FORD, Dodge or Mercedes so please don't feel like we've let you down there and nor do we feel we need to "
catch up" and add support for those platforms to stay relevant.
If you want to expand your range of tuning vehicles perhaps you need to look in to some of the European tuning software that support countless vehicles types (support is bad and often you are on your own with mapping unless you have deep pockets, but it's an option). Did you know there is a tuning tool for Dodge / Chrysler gas cars that is very, very cheap (
out of Russia), another reason why we wouldn't bother trying to break in to that market.....and this is from someone who owns a HEMI vehicle that I cannot tune.
I feel the "
we all had to switch" statement is perhaps an exaggeration, but I am not about to start listing customers who prefer to use our software for E80, E82, E84, E92 etc even though they own both products to prove that it isn't a one way street as you imagine. So yes it is true, rather than become just another player in the already crowded markets (FORD gas for example) we did take some risks and worked on other platforms that had not been done before by software companies which has been perceived as us abandoning our LS1 tuner roots.
I know EFI never said they would support other platforms, dont remember hpt saying they would either. Some of us been around since the beginning with efi and hpt, I bought the first versions of both, both were priced close to the same and were very comparable. After using both and when the V2 came out I invested alot in EFI streams and sold my hpt and used efi only for years because I felt it was the best product out there and had awesome customer service (still do). It seemed like something changed after E38/T43's came out where efi started going a different direction. For all those years I made a living using only efi then I started needing to use hpt more. Its frustrating to have a stream to have a to buy a hpt license to change one table. Then E92's came out and everyone I know who tunes uses hpt on them because of more support.
In what sense do you mean? It is still the usual $125 per vehicle, if it is an ECM that has GM's heightened security (very likely) then you will need an Auth-Code on top of that ($50): Note, this is a manually processed code which is why there is a fee, but this has been detailed in one of our newsletters and in various software updates. So for a 2017 Vette as an example you are up for $175 USD (assuming no discounts applied). I heard it was closer to $300 to tune a 2017 GM gas vehicle with HPT but I might be wrong there, you could probably confirm that if you are using their software.
Yes I was asking about the enhanced, it was $300 initially in hpt but they changed it to $200 now. I wont be doing very many of them for probably a year at least (see replay above) just trying to see what will be my option for them
Ok, I don't view the tuning industry like consumer electronics products, you know the type of person who will only buy Apple everything no matter what other companies might offer on their products. As a tuner I don't think you can afford to lock yourself in to one product, I know many tuners that have 5 or more different tuning packages to cover everything they want to the level they need. EFILive never set out to conquer and support every manufacturer and model out there, sure we took a different direction as far back as 2007/8 when we released LB7 Duramax support. But since then we have not abandoned GM gas as you might think and in many cases new GM gas ECM types have been released much earlier than HPT had support for them which personally I am proud of considering we are a two man R&D show and they are many more than that.....heck, as big as they are they couldn't even design their own AutoCal type product, a product that has taken so many EFILive users to levels of success they couldn't have imagined if they were just stuck flashing tunes on a laptop.
Regards,
Ross